KmyMoney 5.0.0

[Brendan Coupe]

Dean,

To be clear, I am not a KMM developer.

I have been compiling from source for 10 or more years and I wrote scripts
to manage it back in the cvs days, migrated the scripts to svn and then to
git. I shared them on the mailing list a long time ago but they were not
very user friendly at the time.

I have recently made them much more user friendly, interactive and generic.
I will send an email to the list shortly with the current version assuming
I can attach a tar file. If not I will find some other way to share them.

I hope they help you install either the current official release or, better
yet, from one of the git branches.

----
Brendan Coupe


On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:35 PM Dean Albert <deanmalbert at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am using KmyMoney version 5.0.0.  I got it from Linux Mint 19.1 Mate.
> Synaptic was used to install it. Synaptic calls the version 5.0.1-2.  That
> is incorrect.  5.0.0 is right as that is on the welcome screen and under
> "About".
>
> I have some easy to fix (I think) bugs with the program.
>
> I have been using it for 8-10 years.  I don't use checks much, but I do
> use the "No." column all the time for other reasons.
>
> In earlier versions of KMM, I was able use the check number which would
> auto increment, but I was also able to use repeating numbers to signify
> debit card transaction numbers.  (I have to keep track of them for some
> bank programs.)  When I put in a duplicate "check number" a warning would
> popup saying: "Check number xxx has already been used in account
> xxxxxxxxxxx.  Do you want to replace it with the next available number? NO
> or YES".  I would click "NO" and I would be able to reuse that number.
>
> Every month for example I would run the numbers from F1,F2,... to F12.
> Then, I would do the same numbers the next month.  It was a way of keeping
> track of the debit card transactions.  I can not do that anymore and it is
> making working with KMM a real pain.
>
> 1)  The 5.0.0 program has a button under KMM Ledger, Data Entry called
> Auto Increment Check Number.  The button is there to allow you to turn OFF
> auto increment.  However, it does NOT work.  Nor would I want it to, as
> when I write a check, I would not want it to duplicate a number.
>
> When I want to use the same check number or debit card transaction number,
> etc.,  I get the same warning about duplicate check numbers as before, but
> when I click "NO" meaning let me reuse the check number, it ignores my
> selection and no number is allowed to be put in the box!  It does not allow
> the repeat of the number even though it gives you a choice.  It does NOT
> work properly.   I ran into this when I tried KMM on Windows.  In previous
> Linux & KMM versions I was able to repeat check numbers with no issues.
>
>     SOLUTION:
>
>     A)  Please get rid of the Auto Increment button and leave the default
> as Auto Increment Check Number.  That way people who want to auto increment
> their check numbers can.
>
>         Getting rid of the button means you don't have to fix it, as it is
> useless anyway.
>
>     B)  When you try to duplicate a check number and the warning comes up
> telling you that you are about to use a duplicate check number, allow the
> user to click the "NO" button and duplicate the number if they desire.  It
> they want
>
>         Auto Increment, they click the "YES" button.
>
>
> 2)  I have been forced to use Tags as a way around this.  However, there
> are issues with Tags.  First the field is too long.  It takes up a lot of
> the Memo field.  I use the Memo field to copy & paste confirmations of
> bills that I pay.  It is the most important field in the entire program and
> should be the largest field.  Now, it is difficult to see what I am doing
> as the height is not as tall as it was.  I also use the "No." field to
> paste the receipt of the check I paid through the bank. This works only
> because the confirmation numbers are always changing.  It is theoretically
> possible for two to be the same at some point in the future.  If you don't
> have the duplicate check number warning "NO & YES" options working, you
> could not enter a duplicate confirmation number either.
>
> Using Tags take longer as I have to go to a drop down field for the
> correct Tag.  Since I have multiple bank accounts, the number of Tags is
> quite large. 68 in my case.
>
>     SOLUTION:
>
>     C)  Please allow users to turn Tags On or Off if they don't want to
> use them.
>
>     D)  Make the Tag field less intrusive if you insist on having them.
>
>
> I have been in contact with one of your developers, Brendan Coupe.  He has
> been very helpful on this subject.  He told me I should report bugs to the
> development team.  I was reporting them through the KMM program whch sent
> me to the KDE bug site.  That's why I am writing to you now.
>
> He is using a different version of KMM than I am am, so he was not able to
> duplicate the bugs I ran into.  He is using 5.0.2.
>
> I am not a Linux wiz.  I can not change to 5.0.2 or anything that uses a
> .tar.gz file.  I have no clue how to compile or figure out which
> dependencies to use, much less find them.  I use Synaptic to do this.
> Apparently, it is Mint version specific.  I can use the terminal if if am
> told what to write in each line.
>
> He said the following:
>
> "I don't think there is much the developers can do if you have no way of
> getting
> a more recent KMM package for your system. 5.0 was extremely buggy as
> expected
> but most issues have been resolved in 5.0.1 and 5.0.2. I think your best
> bet
> may be to compile from source which I may able to help you with.
>
> I have been using a script to build KMM from source on Linux for many
> years. I
> have been modifying the script recently to make it more user friendly in
> hopes
> of sharing it with other KMM users. As written now you can build from the
> Master, 5.0 and 4.8 branches of the git repository. I hope to add building
> from
> released tarballs eventually.
>
> Please note, you have to install all dependencies manually before the
> build
> script will complete successfully. It's not always easy to get all the
> correct
> packages installed but sharing your error messages on the mailing list
> usually
> helps.
>
> Let me know if you are interested in trying to run the BuldKMM script.
> It's
> very safe to run, it does not do anything to change your system (no sudo
> commands). It builds from source in a clean folder. It's also in the best
> shape
> to share.
>
> If it works then I will try to get the Install script in better shape to
> share.
> It does modify your system and it's best to uninstall any kMM package that
> you
> have installed before running it.
>
> If you are not on the KMM developer mailing list please join it so that we
> can
> troubleshoot the scripts in the open."
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Dean Albert
>
>
>
>
>
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