unexpected presence of a payee in an investment transaction

[Jack]

I have looked, and do not see any splits in any of these transactions.

If I click "Go to Payee" it takes me back to the Payee view (where I  
started) which shows both "legitimate" payments to that payee, but also  
the buy shares transactions.


On 2016.06.15 12:31, aga wrote:
> On 15/06/16 16:22, Jack wrote:
>> I think you do understand.  I don't see the Payee name displayed
>> anywhere in the transaction, thus no way to change/remove it.  It is
>> obviously there, since the transaction shows up in the Payee view,  
>> and
>> "go to payee" does appear in the context menu of the transaction in  
>> the
>> ledger view of the investment account.
>> 
> 
> OK,Jack.
> 
> Just one last point.  Or two.
> 
> You possibly have already, but I don't think it's been mentioned,  
> might it be hiding in a split?
> 
> Finally, have you followed the "go to payee"?
> 
> Allan
> 
>> I can probably get an ofx file (the original was likely direct  
>> connect),
>> and I suppose I could rename that payee to something completely
>> different, and see if a re-import includes the renamed payee.   
>> However,
>> it does seem that the original issue happened long ago.  I don't  
>> think
>> I'd call the file corrupt, as it seems otherwise internally  
>> consistent,
>> it just seems to have a payee assigned for an investment transaction,
>> which may have once been done, but should no longer be the case.  I
>> probably won't do anything about it until I at least look into the  
>> kmy
>> file to see if I can find any concrete evidence.
>> 
>> On 2016.06.15 08:50, aga wrote:
>>> On 15/06/16 03:05, Jack wrote:
>>>> I don't want to delete the payee totally, I want to remove it from  
>>>> some
>>>> buy share transactions, and I don't see it displayed in the ledger
>>>> anywhere, either in the investment account, the brokerage account,  
>>>> and
>>>> no explicit mention in the payee display (which is not editable  
>>>> anyway).
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sorry, but still trying to get my head around this!  As I understand
>>> it, when you view the Payees view, you see this payee, and when you
>>> select it, you get a list of the transactions involved.  One of  
>>> those
>>> is an investment and you should see the account name and details,
>>> etc.  Where does your payee name appear?  If you then double click
>>> that transaction, you go to Ledger view, and can see the security  
>>> name
>>> and details, which, as I see it, shows the investment activity type.
>>> I don't see anywhere a Payee field.
>>> 
>>> If you create a new investment transaction, again there is no Payee
>>> field.
>>> 
>>> Is this the case, and your predicament?  Nowhere to edit a payee  
>>> field.
>>> 
>>> If so, then I've no idea how it came to be created.
>>> 
>>> In your April example, do you have that OFX file to hand to try
>>> reimporting?  Or can you re-direct-connect.  If you are able to do
>>> this, temporarily remove any existing payee of that name and any
>>> matching.
>>> 
>>> If that doesn't show it again, I just don't know, and can only think
>>> your file got corrupted.  Your only option then would be the old XML
>>> edit edit, as far as I can see.  But I didn't tell you that!
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2016.06.14 21:57, allan wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not sure I understand so excuse me if I've got it wrong.You  
>>>>> have a
>>>>> payee you want to delete but can't see how?  Why, what happens  
>>>>> when
>>>>> you try?  Do you have any matching set'?
>>>>> Allan
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my Samsung device
>>>>> 
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
>>>>> Date: 14/06/2016  23:07  (GMT+00:00)
>>>>> To: kmymoney-devel at kde.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: unexpected presence of a payee in an investment
>>>>> transaction
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2016.06.14 17:36, aga wrote:
>>>>> > On 14/06/16 20:59, Jack wrote:
>>>>> >> I was tracking down a recent payment, and so was looking at the
>>>>> Payee
>>>>> >> Veiw for a payee "MetLife".  Most of the transactions are plain
>>>>> >> checks.
>>>>> >> However, there was one investment transaction.  It was for  
>>>>> purchase
>>>>> >> of a
>>>>> >> security "METLIFE INC     COM" with the funds coming from the
>>>>> default
>>>>> >> brokerage account for that investment account.  Nowhere in the
>>>>> >> ledger do
>>>>> >> I see any mention of the Payee MetLife.  (Yes, it's the same  
>>>>> company
>>>>> >> - I
>>>>> >> own shares in it, and pay it for insurance premiums -  
>>>>> completely
>>>>> >> unrelated activities.)  I have not yet dug into the actual KMY  
>>>>> file,
>>>>> >> but
>>>>> >> I'm really curious why there is any payee involved in a "buy  
>>>>> shares"
>>>>> >> transaction with no fees involved.  I believe all the relevant
>>>>> >> transactions were imported by OFX, either direct connect or  
>>>>> file
>>>>> >> import
>>>>> >> (libofx, not aqbanking).
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Any explanations?
>>>>> 
>>>>> > Was it a recent transaction?  There was a time when a payee was
>>>>> > required, but that was removed by popular request.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I actually found several more from 2014, but this one was just  
>>>>> from
>>>>> this April.  However, if it matched to the older ones, I can see  
>>>>> it
>>>>> would continue to use the same payee as the older transactions.   
>>>>> What I
>>>>> still find odd is that I don't see any way in the standard  
>>>>> interface to
>>>>> remove it.  Will I have to manually edit the kmy file?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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