unexpected presence of a payee in an investment transaction

[aga]

On 15/06/16 16:22, Jack wrote:
> I think you do understand.  I don't see the Payee name displayed
> anywhere in the transaction, thus no way to change/remove it.  It is
> obviously there, since the transaction shows up in the Payee view, and
> "go to payee" does appear in the context menu of the transaction in the
> ledger view of the investment account.
>

OK,Jack.

Just one last point.  Or two.

You possibly have already, but I don't think it's been mentioned, might 
it be hiding in a split?

Finally, have you followed the "go to payee"?

Allan

> I can probably get an ofx file (the original was likely direct connect),
> and I suppose I could rename that payee to something completely
> different, and see if a re-import includes the renamed payee.  However,
> it does seem that the original issue happened long ago.  I don't think
> I'd call the file corrupt, as it seems otherwise internally consistent,
> it just seems to have a payee assigned for an investment transaction,
> which may have once been done, but should no longer be the case.  I
> probably won't do anything about it until I at least look into the kmy
> file to see if I can find any concrete evidence.
>
> On 2016.06.15 08:50, aga wrote:
>> On 15/06/16 03:05, Jack wrote:
>>> I don't want to delete the payee totally, I want to remove it from some
>>> buy share transactions, and I don't see it displayed in the ledger
>>> anywhere, either in the investment account, the brokerage account, and
>>> no explicit mention in the payee display (which is not editable anyway).
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, but still trying to get my head around this!  As I understand
>> it, when you view the Payees view, you see this payee, and when you
>> select it, you get a list of the transactions involved.  One of those
>> is an investment and you should see the account name and details,
>> etc.  Where does your payee name appear?  If you then double click
>> that transaction, you go to Ledger view, and can see the security name
>> and details, which, as I see it, shows the investment activity type.
>> I don't see anywhere a Payee field.
>>
>> If you create a new investment transaction, again there is no Payee
>> field.
>>
>> Is this the case, and your predicament?  Nowhere to edit a payee field.
>>
>> If so, then I've no idea how it came to be created.
>>
>> In your April example, do you have that OFX file to hand to try
>> reimporting?  Or can you re-direct-connect.  If you are able to do
>> this, temporarily remove any existing payee of that name and any
>> matching.
>>
>> If that doesn't show it again, I just don't know, and can only think
>> your file got corrupted.  Your only option then would be the old XML
>> edit edit, as far as I can see.  But I didn't tell you that!
>>
>> Allan
>>
>>
>>> On 2016.06.14 21:57, allan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure I understand so excuse me if I've got it wrong.You have a
>>>> payee you want to delete but can't see how?  Why, what happens when
>>>> you try?  Do you have any matching set'?
>>>> Allan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Samsung device
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
>>>> Date: 14/06/2016  23:07  (GMT+00:00)
>>>> To: kmymoney-devel at kde.org
>>>> Subject: Re: unexpected presence of a payee in an investment
>>>> transaction
>>>>
>>>> On 2016.06.14 17:36, aga wrote:
>>>> > On 14/06/16 20:59, Jack wrote:
>>>> >> I was tracking down a recent payment, and so was looking at the
>>>> Payee
>>>> >> Veiw for a payee "MetLife".  Most of the transactions are plain
>>>> >> checks.
>>>> >> However, there was one investment transaction.  It was for purchase
>>>> >> of a
>>>> >> security "METLIFE INC     COM" with the funds coming from the
>>>> default
>>>> >> brokerage account for that investment account.  Nowhere in the
>>>> >> ledger do
>>>> >> I see any mention of the Payee MetLife.  (Yes, it's the same company
>>>> >> - I
>>>> >> own shares in it, and pay it for insurance premiums - completely
>>>> >> unrelated activities.)  I have not yet dug into the actual KMY file,
>>>> >> but
>>>> >> I'm really curious why there is any payee involved in a "buy shares"
>>>> >> transaction with no fees involved.  I believe all the relevant
>>>> >> transactions were imported by OFX, either direct connect or file
>>>> >> import
>>>> >> (libofx, not aqbanking).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Any explanations?
>>>>
>>>> > Was it a recent transaction?  There was a time when a payee was
>>>> > required, but that was removed by popular request.
>>>>
>>>> I actually found several more from 2014, but this one was just from
>>>> this April.  However, if it matched to the older ones, I can see it
>>>> would continue to use the same payee as the older transactions.  What I
>>>> still find odd is that I don't see any way in the standard interface to
>>>> remove it.  Will I have to manually edit the kmy file?
>>>
>>>
>>
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