unexpected presence of a payee in an investment transaction

[Jack]

I think you do understand.  I don't see the Payee name displayed  
anywhere in the transaction, thus no way to change/remove it.  It is  
obviously there, since the transaction shows up in the Payee view, and  
"go to payee" does appear in the context menu of the transaction in the  
ledger view of the investment account.

I can probably get an ofx file (the original was likely direct  
connect), and I suppose I could rename that payee to something  
completely different, and see if a re-import includes the renamed  
payee.  However, it does seem that the original issue happened long  
ago.  I don't think I'd call the file corrupt, as it seems otherwise  
internally consistent, it just seems to have a payee assigned for an  
investment transaction, which may have once been done, but should no  
longer be the case.  I probably won't do anything about it until I at  
least look into the kmy file to see if I can find any concrete evidence.

On 2016.06.15 08:50, aga wrote:
> On 15/06/16 03:05, Jack wrote:
>> I don't want to delete the payee totally, I want to remove it from  
>> some
>> buy share transactions, and I don't see it displayed in the ledger
>> anywhere, either in the investment account, the brokerage account,  
>> and
>> no explicit mention in the payee display (which is not editable  
>> anyway).
>> 
> 
> Sorry, but still trying to get my head around this!  As I understand  
> it, when you view the Payees view, you see this payee, and when you  
> select it, you get a list of the transactions involved.  One of those  
> is an investment and you should see the account name and details,  
> etc.  Where does your payee name appear?  If you then double click  
> that transaction, you go to Ledger view, and can see the security  
> name and details, which, as I see it, shows the investment activity  
> type.  I don't see anywhere a Payee field.
> 
> If you create a new investment transaction, again there is no Payee  
> field.
> 
> Is this the case, and your predicament?  Nowhere to edit a payee  
> field.
> 
> If so, then I've no idea how it came to be created.
> 
> In your April example, do you have that OFX file to hand to try  
> reimporting?  Or can you re-direct-connect.  If you are able to do  
> this, temporarily remove any existing payee of that name and any  
> matching.
> 
> If that doesn't show it again, I just don't know, and can only think  
> your file got corrupted.  Your only option then would be the old XML  
> edit edit, as far as I can see.  But I didn't tell you that!
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
>> On 2016.06.14 21:57, allan wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure I understand so excuse me if I've got it wrong.You  
>>> have a
>>> payee you want to delete but can't see how?  Why, what happens when
>>> you try?  Do you have any matching set'?
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Samsung device
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
>>> Date: 14/06/2016  23:07  (GMT+00:00)
>>> To: kmymoney-devel at kde.org
>>> Subject: Re: unexpected presence of a payee in an investment  
>>> transaction
>>> 
>>> On 2016.06.14 17:36, aga wrote:
>>> > On 14/06/16 20:59, Jack wrote:
>>> >> I was tracking down a recent payment, and so was looking at the  
>>> Payee
>>> >> Veiw for a payee "MetLife".  Most of the transactions are plain
>>> >> checks.
>>> >> However, there was one investment transaction.  It was for  
>>> purchase
>>> >> of a
>>> >> security "METLIFE INC     COM" with the funds coming from the  
>>> default
>>> >> brokerage account for that investment account.  Nowhere in the
>>> >> ledger do
>>> >> I see any mention of the Payee MetLife.  (Yes, it's the same  
>>> company
>>> >> - I
>>> >> own shares in it, and pay it for insurance premiums - completely
>>> >> unrelated activities.)  I have not yet dug into the actual KMY  
>>> file,
>>> >> but
>>> >> I'm really curious why there is any payee involved in a "buy  
>>> shares"
>>> >> transaction with no fees involved.  I believe all the relevant
>>> >> transactions were imported by OFX, either direct connect or file
>>> >> import
>>> >> (libofx, not aqbanking).
>>> >>
>>> >> Any explanations?
>>> 
>>> > Was it a recent transaction?  There was a time when a payee was
>>> > required, but that was removed by popular request.
>>> 
>>> I actually found several more from 2014, but this one was just from
>>> this April.  However, if it matched to the older ones, I can see it
>>> would continue to use the same payee as the older transactions.   
>>> What I
>>> still find odd is that I don't see any way in the standard  
>>> interface to
>>> remove it.  Will I have to manually edit the kmy file?
>> 
>> 
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