Citibank Visa OFX Problem

Brendan Coupe brendan at coupeware.com
Mon Jul 18 03:08:03 UTC 2016


I mapped the old account to the new Citibank account and when i downloaded
the past 6 months nothing matched. I manually matched everything and
imported again and - again, nothing matched.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Glad I made a backup:-)



*----Brendan*

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Brendan Coupe <brendan at coupeware.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the help. I know that my OFX downloads failed 2 weeks ago when
> i gave up and switched to the Fedora version for the first time in many
> years.
>
> I modified my script to get the 4.8 branch. Here is the new git clone
> command for anyone else wondering how to get the source.
>
> git clone git://anongit.kde.org/kmymoney --branch 4.8
>
> This way I can get the bug fixes easily.
>
> I will wait for a while until KF5 settles down.
>
> I'm going to take your advice and map the old account to the new Citibank
> Visa card.
>
>
>
> *----Brendan*
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
> wrote:
>
>> [please don't top post]
>>
>> On 2016.07.17 19:13, Brendan Coupe wrote:
>>
>>> Is the OFX import relatively new to KF5? I submitted a question (see KF5
>>> -
>>> GPG Encryption Problem) here a 2 weeks ago and Christian said it was not
>>> working. My accounts are all mapped so it was not a mapping issue.
>>>
>>> I'll probably stick with 4.8 until KF5 is more stable. Are any changes
>>> being made to 4.8 or is it done? I downloaded the source and compiled it
>>> and imported my transactions for the Citibank Visa and it did the same
>>> thing. If there will be no more bug fixes in 4.8 I'll stick with it until
>>> KF5 is ready.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *----Brendan*
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 2016.07.17 18:39, Brendan Coupe wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Nothing shows up on the command line that explains what is happening.
>>> >>
>>> >> It's a new bank and a new credit card so I'd prefer to leave it as a
>>> new
>>> >> account in KMM. I guess I could just treat it as "Costco Credit Card".
>>> >> I've
>>> >> thought about this with my other credit card that seems to be replaced
>>> >> every 8 to 12 months for the past several years. The move to a new
>>> account
>>> >> is always painful.
>>> >>
>>> >> Since it's impossible to get the banks to follow the standard (don't
>>> get
>>> >> me
>>> >> started on Charles Schwab) it seems to me that KMM should be doing 2
>>> >> things. It should discard all transactions prior to the starting date
>>> that
>>> >> it requests from the bank and it should discard all transactions
>>> prior to
>>> >> the opening date of the account. The download may still take a while
>>> since
>>> >> I'm getting everything but KMM can toss most of it out.
>>> >>
>>> >> I normally run from that latest source. I have 2 scripts that make it
>>> very
>>> >> easy to download, compile and install the very latest. I had to stop
>>> using
>>> >> them when KMM switched to the KF5 version since it does not handle OFX
>>> >> files yet.
>>> >>
>>> >> Can I change the path in my script to get 4.8? It's currently git://
>>> >> anongit.kde.org/kmymoney.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> *----Brendan*
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 2:45 PM, <jeffjl.kde at outlook.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > > On 2016.07.17 15:48, Brendan Coupe wrote:
>>> >> > > > Apparently Citibank is ingnoring the date range so it downloads
>>> >> > > > everything it has which dates back over 6 months from when the
>>> card
>>> >> > > > was activated.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have this same problem with my Citi card.  Sometimes it actually
>>> uses
>>> >> > the dates in the OFX request, but most of the time it returns every
>>> >> single
>>> >> > transaction for the last (I think) 2 years. (I've had the card for
>>> >> longer
>>> >> > than 2 years.) I tried modifying the OFX request and could not find
>>> the
>>> >> > magic words to make it work properly.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > In my case KMM would take about 2 or 3 minutes importing and trying
>>> to
>>> >> > match all those transactions, and as I recall, I would usually have
>>> to
>>> >> > manually fix/delete and/or re-accept the payment transfers.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > This won't help you, but I got tired of it and modified my copy of
>>> the
>>> >> > KMM statement importer to ignore transactions prior to the "Start
>>> date
>>> >> of
>>> >> > import" in the account's online settings.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Jeff
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > git includes both versions.  It's just that master is now the KF5
>>> version,
>>> > and 4.8 is in it's own branch.  If you do "git branch -a" you will see
>>> > which branch you need to checkout.  Note that we have NOT yet
>>> "switched" to
>>> > Frameworks - the official current release is 4.8, but all developer
>>> effort
>>> > is going to complete the switch.  Progress is certainly being made, but
>>> > there is no official timeline.
>>> >
>>> > Also note, that OFX downloads do work in the frameworks version.  (I
>>> have
>>> > tested with my bank, BOA credit card, and Merrill Lynch investment
>>> > accounts.)  However, you cannot map an online account yet.
>>> >
>>> > For your other suggestions, it is probably best to put them in new
>>> > wishlist items on bugs.kde.org.  I would probably word both as
>>> requests
>>> > for all imports, not just OFX, although I suppose honoring the starting
>>> > date request would only apply to online imports for OFX and (I think,
>>> but
>>> > am not sure) aqbanking.
>>> >
>>> > Jack
>>>
>>> 4.8 is the latest stable release, and will probably get only important
>> bug fixes if any changes at all.  All current effort is going to complete
>> the migration to Frameworks.  If you followed the rest of the GPG
>> Encryption email thread you started, Cristian said OFX import wasn't ready
>> yet, I said I had tried it and it worked, and Thomas clarified that there
>> were actually two separate parts to it - the one to do mapping was not yet
>> migrated to Frameworks and the part to do the actual download was
>> migrated.  However, I would still not use the Frameworks version for
>> production use quite yet.
>>
>> Right now, I suspect both versions would do the same thing with your
>> Citibank download, so that's not a deciding factor.  However, changing the
>> behavior to handle this issue will likely be done in Frameworks
>> (eventually) and not likely back ported to 4.8.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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