Citibank Visa OFX Problem

[Brendan Coupe]

Thanks for the help. I know that my OFX downloads failed 2 weeks ago when i
gave up and switched to the Fedora version for the first time in many years.

I modified my script to get the 4.8 branch. Here is the new git clone
command for anyone else wondering how to get the source.

git clone git://anongit.kde.org/kmymoney --branch 4.8

This way I can get the bug fixes easily.

I will wait for a while until KF5 settles down.

I'm going to take your advice and map the old account to the new Citibank
Visa card.



*----Brendan*

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
wrote:

> [please don't top post]
>
> On 2016.07.17 19:13, Brendan Coupe wrote:
>
>> Is the OFX import relatively new to KF5? I submitted a question (see KF5 -
>> GPG Encryption Problem) here a 2 weeks ago and Christian said it was not
>> working. My accounts are all mapped so it was not a mapping issue.
>>
>> I'll probably stick with 4.8 until KF5 is more stable. Are any changes
>> being made to 4.8 or is it done? I downloaded the source and compiled it
>> and imported my transactions for the Citibank Visa and it did the same
>> thing. If there will be no more bug fixes in 4.8 I'll stick with it until
>> KF5 is ready.
>>
>>
>>
>> *----Brendan*
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On 2016.07.17 18:39, Brendan Coupe wrote:
>> >
>> >> Nothing shows up on the command line that explains what is happening.
>> >>
>> >> It's a new bank and a new credit card so I'd prefer to leave it as a
>> new
>> >> account in KMM. I guess I could just treat it as "Costco Credit Card".
>> >> I've
>> >> thought about this with my other credit card that seems to be replaced
>> >> every 8 to 12 months for the past several years. The move to a new
>> account
>> >> is always painful.
>> >>
>> >> Since it's impossible to get the banks to follow the standard (don't
>> get
>> >> me
>> >> started on Charles Schwab) it seems to me that KMM should be doing 2
>> >> things. It should discard all transactions prior to the starting date
>> that
>> >> it requests from the bank and it should discard all transactions prior
>> to
>> >> the opening date of the account. The download may still take a while
>> since
>> >> I'm getting everything but KMM can toss most of it out.
>> >>
>> >> I normally run from that latest source. I have 2 scripts that make it
>> very
>> >> easy to download, compile and install the very latest. I had to stop
>> using
>> >> them when KMM switched to the KF5 version since it does not handle OFX
>> >> files yet.
>> >>
>> >> Can I change the path in my script to get 4.8? It's currently git://
>> >> anongit.kde.org/kmymoney.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *----Brendan*
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 2:45 PM, <jeffjl.kde at outlook.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > On 2016.07.17 15:48, Brendan Coupe wrote:
>> >> > > > Apparently Citibank is ingnoring the date range so it downloads
>> >> > > > everything it has which dates back over 6 months from when the
>> card
>> >> > > > was activated.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have this same problem with my Citi card.  Sometimes it actually
>> uses
>> >> > the dates in the OFX request, but most of the time it returns every
>> >> single
>> >> > transaction for the last (I think) 2 years. (I've had the card for
>> >> longer
>> >> > than 2 years.) I tried modifying the OFX request and could not find
>> the
>> >> > magic words to make it work properly.
>> >> >
>> >> > In my case KMM would take about 2 or 3 minutes importing and trying
>> to
>> >> > match all those transactions, and as I recall, I would usually have
>> to
>> >> > manually fix/delete and/or re-accept the payment transfers.
>> >> >
>> >> > This won't help you, but I got tired of it and modified my copy of
>> the
>> >> > KMM statement importer to ignore transactions prior to the "Start
>> date
>> >> of
>> >> > import" in the account's online settings.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jeff
>> >>
>> >
>> > git includes both versions.  It's just that master is now the KF5
>> version,
>> > and 4.8 is in it's own branch.  If you do "git branch -a" you will see
>> > which branch you need to checkout.  Note that we have NOT yet
>> "switched" to
>> > Frameworks - the official current release is 4.8, but all developer
>> effort
>> > is going to complete the switch.  Progress is certainly being made, but
>> > there is no official timeline.
>> >
>> > Also note, that OFX downloads do work in the frameworks version.  (I
>> have
>> > tested with my bank, BOA credit card, and Merrill Lynch investment
>> > accounts.)  However, you cannot map an online account yet.
>> >
>> > For your other suggestions, it is probably best to put them in new
>> > wishlist items on bugs.kde.org.  I would probably word both as requests
>> > for all imports, not just OFX, although I suppose honoring the starting
>> > date request would only apply to online imports for OFX and (I think,
>> but
>> > am not sure) aqbanking.
>> >
>> > Jack
>>
>> 4.8 is the latest stable release, and will probably get only important
> bug fixes if any changes at all.  All current effort is going to complete
> the migration to Frameworks.  If you followed the rest of the GPG
> Encryption email thread you started, Cristian said OFX import wasn't ready
> yet, I said I had tried it and it worked, and Thomas clarified that there
> were actually two separate parts to it - the one to do mapping was not yet
> migrated to Frameworks and the part to do the actual download was
> migrated.  However, I would still not use the Frameworks version for
> production use quite yet.
>
> Right now, I suspect both versions would do the same thing with your
> Citibank download, so that's not a deciding factor.  However, changing the
> behavior to handle this issue will likely be done in Frameworks
> (eventually) and not likely back ported to 4.8.
>
>
>
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