Krita 3.0.1 Release Process
Boudewijn Rempt
boud at valdyas.org
Thu Aug 18 14:35:07 UTC 2016
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, Wolthera wrote:
> The 3.0.1 release announcement and the docs are already done, that's
> something Scott and I take care of. (Release announcement needs a few
> images and maybe links, but we have two full weeks)
>
> The only thing that really hiccups is translations, because that is a
> separate group of people with a completely different system(like, they
> don't even use git).
If you're talking about website translations, I don't know, but releasing
the application translations is now completely automatic. I make a tarball,
it's got the latest translation sources in there, and make install builds all
translations as well and puts them in the right place. Since I use the
same scripts all other KDE libraries and applications use, I'm pretty
confident that it'll be compatible with the way translators work.
I should be doing release builds from the tarball anyway, instead of
directly from git. Running the script presupposes the existence of a tag,
so that part is _also_ guaranteed to happen.
>
> If you want to set a formal deadline for the announcements, talk to me and
> scott?
>
> Op 18 aug. 2016 14:54 schreef "Dmitry Kazakov" <dimula73 at gmail.com>:
>
> > Ok, Boud. Then I will just not take part in this release. No announcements
> > for the 2.5k people in vk community, no habrahabr post with 100k+ people
> > reading it, no help with translations, nothing except of bugfixes for the
> > bugs you add to the phabricator board.
> >
> > To make announcements or coordinate translators I need to have information
> > about the release. The announcement should be ready in at least a day or
> > two before the day of the release, so I could delegate translation to
> > anyone and don't get up at six in the morning at the day of the release to
> > translate it myself. The translators should be notified that the builds are
> > coming so they could push the changes to SVN. Not all the translators have
> > an SVN commit access, so this process is not superfast. From this point of
> > view 3.0 release was a failure. Due to the fact that everything has been
> > done at the last day, I couldn't delegate anything and had to do everything
> > myself. Though there were people who could do it instead of me if they were
> > notified in time.
> >
> > Just try to understand that your are not the only person in this project.
> > And not all the people who involved into the process are motivated enough
> > to sit on IRC all day long and read all the messages just to know when the
> > builds are ready, or are going to be ready.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Boudewijn Rempt <boud at valdyas.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
> >>
> >> I was surprised to read on irc that I apparently still have
> >> to make a decision about using Trello or not. I would have
> >> assumed my last mail was clear enough, but in case it wasn't:
> >>
> >> No, we will not use Trello this release cycle. We will do this
> >> release cycle like we agreed upon on July 18th, as documented
> >> originally in this google doc:
> >>
> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wFfOD8ce-8MD8tYD8FrXIgVL
> >> JwkXtMSEHi_IPQ0yMGI/edit
> >>
> >> Which contains the notes we made during that meeting.
> >>
> >> After the release we can discuss whether we need improvements
> >> or whether everything went fine. When it comes to planning,
> >> there are absolutely no surprises:
> >>
> >> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=pv232t7pu0acs
> >> tl5c64357mlo4%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Amsterdam
> >>
> >> Making dev builds during the stabilization phase happens whenever
> >> I or someone else has time for it. I tend to do those in the
> >> weekends and try to release on Monday. Those are not really
> >> releases, though for clarities' sake, I might call them alpha's
> >> or beta's. But they come out whenever I have time or energy.
> >>
> >> I would like to remind everyone that
> >>
> >> a) we made 12 2.9 releases and that went almost always completely
> >> fine, with very minor hickups.
> >>
> >> b) nothing major went "wrong" that merited all the stress.
> >>
> >> c) because we release often we can afford to be less stressed
> >> about releases. If something slips through, take a deep breath,
> >> it's not the end of the world and not a reason to stress out. It
> >> can be fixed in the next release, and in the meantime we get
> >> used again to frequent releases and things will keep going
> >> smoother.
> >>
> >> d) In contrast to 3.0, where we actually didn't even have a
> >> source release, we will have that for 3.0.1 -- that's something
> >> to be happy about! The source tarballs will also contain the
> >> latest transslations automatically, and we'll build the binaries
> >> from the source tarballs -- which is a major step because before
> >> they were made from git.
> >>
> >> Finally, I have been home sick for nearly two months now. Burn-out
> >> is a serious condition and I can do with a lot less stress. Stress
> >> happens not because I have something that needs to be done, it happens
> >> when someone decides that I need to do something, or need to do
> >> something in a different way. That needs to be avoided.
> >>
> >> I hope that this is clear.
> >> --
> >> Boudewijn Rempt | http://www.krita.org, http://www.valdyas.org
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dmitry Kazakov
> >
>
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Boudewijn Rempt | http://www.krita.org, http://www.valdyas.org
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