Konqueror 4 webbrowsing UI

[George Staikos]

On Thursday 24 November 2005 13:31, Leo Savernik wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 24. November 2005 17:12 schrieb George Staikos:
> > Here's a first-attempt mock-up at the Konqueror 4 web browser UI.  I'm
> > sure there is lots of work to be done, but the key points:
>
> As I'm not to inhibit progress on UI, I'm actually more interested in this
> more general question, not restricted to Konqueror:
>
> Will toolbars be finally customisable? And I mean *really* customisable.
> Real in the sense that they will *pertain* their changes indefinitely, even
> over version upgrades. Up to now, customisations were *forgotten* the
> moment the rc-version was upgraded.

  Not my job. :-)  I agree it's horribly annoying, but I don't have intentions 
to work on this.

> Now to some specific remarks:
> > 1) URL bar is now permanent and unremovable
>
> Permanent and unremoveable as in "not accessible by the content (i. e.
> webpage)", or as in "not being able to be manipulated by the user"?

  At least by the content, possibly to an extent by the user.

> > 2) Statusbar is permanent and unremovable
>
> Same like (1)

  Already should be 100% permanent.  If not, it's a bug.

> > 3) Almost all tools are moved to a removable toolbar that is optional
> > 4) Bookmark bar can go beside this toolbar -> shrinks vertical footprint
> > 5) Search is prominent
>
> Why is there such a big space between the search input bar and the address
> bar?

  Because I used the gimp to draw it? :-)

> > 7) No features had to be removed except the "Go" button, which is quite
> > strange in concept I think.  No reason why it can't be added back
>
> Not removing functionality is the way to go. Yet I fear that the extra
> toolbar will vanish one day.

  I will be extremely vocal against that.  Maybe it will be hidden by default 
in some distributions or even our source packages, but it should -always- be 
there.

> Is the menu bar finally treated like a toolbar in Qt4? Then I'd see no
> technical issue.
> However, currently the throbber is taller than the menubar. Moving it there
> would make the whole menubar taller, wasting vertical screen real estate.

  Well we could make it smaller.

> > 3) Menus need more reduction/refactoring
> > 4) Could this work for file management too?
>
> No. Moving upwards is at least as important as moving backwards (if not
> even more). If you really want to perform this drastical change, Konqueror
> should also "change personality" between different parts like IE does now.

  This is my concern too.

> > 5) The [X] button beside location is too clickable
>
> And the problem is?

  Users can very easily click it by accident.

> > 6) Do we need the Location: label?
>
> Yes. How else could you dnd an url into the location bar if you have no tab
> bar.

  You can drop URL into the combo itself.

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