toolbars removus

[George Staikos]

On Friday 04 February 2005 14:35, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Friday 04 February 2005 11:49, George Staikos wrote:
> >   For the (n+2) time, no to that one.  For KDE 4 I will fully test all
> > the scenarios and we can consider the concept of looking in the toolbar
> > for security state to be obsolete.
>
> the scenario that matters is the default one. and in the default one we
> show the lock in 3 places, including the defacto standard location of the
> status bar, and the rather newly introduced location of the location bar.
> this isn't something that requires months, weeks or even days of
> deliberation: there are two other places in the default set up that web
> pages can not obscure. i don't think it's responsible to insist on making
> konqueror look foolish for having the same info in *3* places in the
> default set up when it's pretty obvious with nice bright lock icons and
> color changes in the location bar.

   Ok, remove the location bar one if having it in three places is a problem?  
It's actually in four, and conceptually it needs to be in 2: the statusbar 
and the context menu.

> the security status madness in konqueror has ceased to border on fetishism
> and firmly within the realm of whips and chains at this point. to drive the
> point home, here's the message we communicate very clearly right now:
>
> KDE: security is not optional, but usability is the last thing we care
> about. and did we mention we care about security? a lot. security.

    usability is not a factor here.  We're talking 22x22 pixels on something 
that is already relatively empty space, and we're talking about a large 
number of users who have been using it for ages and expect it in to toolbar.  
I am maintainer of this stuff, and this is the way I want it.  In KDE 4 we 
will change it.  I think I need to learn these email template things in kmail 
to store this one.

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George Staikos
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