gideon

Ken Brakey brakeykr at poncacity.net
Wed Aug 29 15:39:57 BST 2001



Ralf Nolden wrote:
> 
> On Dienstag, 28. August 2001 04:25, you wrote:
> > Maybe I can help. :-)
> You did :)

As usual, ask my wife, I don't know what I'm talking about. :-)))
Time to get re-organized and talk to self. Abstract thought HURTS!
Ken

> 
> What's missing for understanding is that as gideon is based on plugins, you
> won't see those if they are not installed. While the usual KDE applications
> formerly were just one big binary, this isn't the case anymore so you need to
> install gideon. Due to the naming of the binary, it doesn't interfere with an
> installed version of 2.0 at the same time, so you can run both in parallel.
> Additionally, the ksycoca is a program that builds up a binary database from
> installed .desktop files. Each plugin provides such a file for the service it
> offers. That way, the program gets notified about a plugin by querying the
> trader for the available plugins/services (same as konqueror basically).
> KDEDIRS is another environment variable you can use for your kde installation
> that's been introduced because of paralell installations of KDE 1 and KDE 2
> systems at the same time a while back, so both are supported, KDEDIR and
> KDEDIRS, for KDE 2.x installations.
> 
> So, just install gideon, kbuildsycoca notices the difference by itself and
> updates ksycoca automatically. Then the services/plugins (especially the New
> Project one :)) are provided in the menu.
> 
> Ralf
> >
> > Julian Rockey wrote:
> > > > Your gideon version is correct, but you don't got the additonial menu
> > > > entries because Gideon couldn't found the plugins.  Please set the
> > > > correct KDEDIRS and restart "kbuildsycoca". This should work.
> > >
> > > Sorry for my lack of understanding here, but could you be more explicit?
> > > I'll tell you where I get stuck. My KDEDIR points to /opt/kde, where KDE
> > > 2.2 release is installed. For experiemental stuff like Gideon I don't
> > > want to
> >
> > export KDEDIR=/opt/kde   // so programs can find lib and includes from
> > KDE
> >
> > When you "./configure --prefix=/opt/gideon" // will put KDevelop there.
> > make -k       // allows the compiler to ('k'eep-on) compiling
> > [especially CVS]:)
> > make install  // the configure script set up the prefix to install into.
> >
> > You should still have the Kdevelop-2.0 using qt-2.3.x.
> > When the qt-3 starts you will have to:
> >  configure -prefix=/opt/gideon -with-qt-dir=/wherever/qt3/is.
> >  to pick up the new qt.
> >
> > I have a RH-6.2 with "/opt/kde" I didn't like under "/usr" :-))
> > As long as the program can find the correct libs & includes it
> > doesn't matter (on YOUR machine).
> > Ken
> >
> > > install in /opt/kde so I compile it in a local dir and run it from there
> > > (i.e. I never execute make install - just cd src;./gideon) So where
> > > should KDEDIR point to in this case? Or does KDE always expect a bin ,
> > > lib , share (et cetera..) structure? And is there a difference between
> > > KDEDIR and KDEDIRS?
> > >
> > > And the way configure seems to work, the --prefix option seems to specify
> > > both where your kde libraries are AND where you'd like Gideon (or
> > > whatever) to be installed. Because I can't figure out how to specify
> > > these separately, this is why I run Gideon from the directory in which I
> > > compiled it.
> > >
> > > Sorry again for asking mundane questions but I hope that any time you put
> > > in helping me get started I can repay with contributions to the project!
> > > (I mean code, not pizza or free mugs, I should make clear after reading
> > > other posts here!)
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Julian
> > >
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