Will be speaking about KDevelop at LinuxCon Japan 2012

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On 20 April 2012 04:42, Milian Wolff <mail at milianw.de> wrote:
>
> On Friday 20 April 2012 14:13:04 Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> > Hi KDevers,
> >
> > I'm glad to announce that I am going to give a 1 hour talk (most
> > likely 45 minutes + 10 minutes questions) at LinuxCon Japan 2012 (June
> > 6-8th) about kernel hacking using KDevelop:
> >
> > https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-japan/courbot
>
> Woha this is awesome news!
>
> > The talk will be mainly about why KDevelop is so overlooked an IDE,
> > what current kernel browsing solutions are lacking, what makes
> > KDevelop so great for kernel hacking (smart parser, git integration,
> > quick navigation, ...), and my own effort to improve things through
> > patches filled with gotos and the kdev-kernel plugin (which integrates
> > kernel configuration and building and tunes the parser for best
> > results). I'd like to demonstrate most of these live, then expect to
> > be burnt alive at the end of the session by the Church of Emacs
> > followers.
>
> Heh, I like your humor :)

I really will not be surprised by that at all. Or Church of Vi/Vim
followers. Or even those who prefer Kate on its own (I used to be one
of these).  I imagine you'll run into the KDE and Qt haters too. :-(

>
> > Despite this I think it's a good opportunity to broaden KDevelop's
> > audience (which once again is really, really overlooked outside of the
> > KDE community) and maybe convince a few people to invest some time in
> > making it even better. There is a little more than one month during
> > the conference, and I will try to take advantage of this to implement
> > a few extra things in kdev-kernel and fix as much of the parser errors
> > as possible. If some of you have suggestions about things I should
> > talk about, please express them!
>
> Hmm things that need to be mentioned... always a big issue for me as well when
> I did a talk on KDevelop. There is simply so much!
>
> Imo you have a nice hook, i.e. kernel development - try to put in all the
> little things that make you productive when using KDevelop. QuickOpen, context
> browsing, semantic highlighting, ... The list should contain things you
> personally use such that you can easily talk about them, imo.
>
> Other tools that come to my mind would be snippets that are quite nifty in
> some situations (also known from lots of other editors). And of course the
> Kate VI-Mode for all the VIM users in the crowd :)
>
> Then, if you have time, I would appreciate it if you could take the time to
> quickly explain the attending developers that it's relatively easy to hack
> KDevelop. It's mostly modular plugins after all... Tell them that we are open
> to any contributions (even if I slack quite much and review requests always
> need some time). You could also stress that we are *not* opposed to a
> designated C language plugin (opposed to a C++ one with C99/C11 extensions) -
> but that this would need someone to work on it.

I have not seen many people talk about KDevelop (everyone I mention it
to has never heard of it) and everyone local here uses OS X and
editors like vim or Sublime Text 2, or even TextMate (OS X is 'stable'
and 'supported'). So I am very happy to hear of anyone spreading the
word about KDevelop which ultimately leads to more users of KDE I
would think. Even so, perhaps you also need to make it somewhat clear
that using KDevelop does not mean you need a full-blown KDE
installation (just dependencies will do) or that you need to run it
within KDE. We are lacking though, fully functional ports of KDevelop
to OS X and Windows (don't mention that :P)

Also, if you could please mention the support for other languages:
PHP, Python, Ruby, and others, and the continual vast improvements of
these with each release. It really makes KDevelop an all-in-one IDE.
>
> Cheers
>
> PS: If you need any help in preparation or such, just hit us up! Many thanks
> for doing this, much appreciated!
> --
> Milian Wolff
> mail at milianw.de
> http://milianw.de
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