[kdepim-users] horrible experience creating a new IMAP account

[Anders Lund]

My existing IMAP account works fine.
 
I note two problems:

* creation of a new IMAP account is broken, it contains prefilled username and 
password, and the communication with kwallet is broken.

* when not working, one gets into a popup dialog hell that makes a kafka 
novell sound like heaven. 

Torsdag den 11. april 2013 14:33:01 skrev O. Sinclair:
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> On 11/04/2013 12:41, Anders Lund wrote:
> > It is very possible that the course of theese errors are on the
> > server side, I can not send a mail to the address in question.
> > 
> > But kmail handles it really bad. First of all it turns into a
> > dialog hell. Several alike dialogs at the same time should be
> > forbidden by law! Wait!
> > 
> > And the imap account creation is terrible! Please do not prefill
> > username and password for new accounts! And the communication with
> > kwallet! AUCH!
> > 
> > Torsdag den 11. april 2013 12:30:51 skrev Anders Lund:
> >> I have removed and recreated the account several times. The
> >> second dialog asking for wallet access does not come up every
> >> time, but the rest of the horror is stable.
> >> 
> >> I got to a state where the account was created, and asked for it
> >> to fetch mail, which gets me a dialog claiming a server access
> >> error, and a "try again" button. Pressing that, I am asked for a
> >> password - but hey, I did provide that. Why do you ask again???
> >> Well, after retyping the password and OKing that dialog, the
> >> account is now listed as "ready" in the account list.
> >> 
> >> But WHERE IS MY MAIL???? Shouldn't there be a inbox folder in my
> >> folder list?
> >> 
> >> In any case, this is a horrible dialog hell!
> >> 
> >> AndersTorsdag den 11. april 2013 12:10:29 skrev  Lund:
> >>> Forgot some idiotic issues:
> >>> 
> >>> When the kmail/akonadi account settings dialog is OKed, the
> >>> account lists in kmail like this: "no server configured yet".
> >>> 
> >>> No folder is added to the kmail folder list, which is what I
> >>> expect.
> >>> 
> >>> I'm closing in on kmail not being usable for my re	quirements,
> >>> once again, and I find it really, really unacceptable.
> >>> 
> >>> AndersTorsdag den 11. april 2013 12:06:41 skrev  Lund:
> >>>> I just got a new IMAP account, and tried to configure kmail
> >>>> to use it.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I opened kmail settings, went to accounts and clicked new,
> >>>> then selected IMAP server.
> >>>> 
> >>>> A dialog came up, asking for access to my wallet for an
> >>>> accunt named "IMAP account 5" (or thereabout).
> >>>> 
> >>>> I confirm, and a dialog for configuring that account came up,
> >>>> prefilled with my username and password from another account.
> >>>> STUPID!!
> >>>> 
> >>>> I correct the account name to something useful, replaces the
> >>>> username and password and clicks OK.
> >>>> 
> >>>> A dialog comes up asking for access to the wallet for the
> >>>> renamed account. DOOOOOOOOOH, DUDE! But I grant it.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Now starts a fight with various error messages, they appear
> >>>> in stacks. Some of them claims that "the user does not allow
> >>>> access to the wallet". Which is not so, of course.
> >>>> 
> >>>> At this point I am not sure if the information I gor for the
> >>>> account is wrong, or if it is just kmail that is so bad in
> >>>> this iteration that it does not support creating a new IMAP
> >>>> account at all.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I do know one thing, though:
> >>>> 
> >>>> How sadly horrible!
> 
> Well, I only have one IMAP account (at outlook.com no less...) and it
> works. Not without glitches, especially for sending. But I am nowhere
> NEAR the problems you describe.
> 
> I set it up, it was created as a separate inbox/folder tree - as I
> expected, Outlook and Thunderbird works the same way. Then I had to
> tick what folders to subscribe to - yes that was not very intuitive
> but better than getting tons of mail coming in from gmail (if you had
> set up IMAP to email you were likely get ALL mail from whenever
> otherwise).
> 
> So I have to disagree but "only" because my experience of setting up
> the 1 IMAP account I have differ very much from yours. I had no
> password issues and it fetches what it is supposed to fetch once I set
> it up.
> 
> Best,
> Örjan Sinclair
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