[kdepim-users] horrible experience creating a new IMAP account

[O. Sinclair]

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On 11/04/2013 12:41, Anders Lund wrote:
> It is very possible that the course of theese errors are on the
> server side, I can not send a mail to the address in question.
> 
> But kmail handles it really bad. First of all it turns into a
> dialog hell. Several alike dialogs at the same time should be
> forbidden by law! Wait!
> 
> And the imap account creation is terrible! Please do not prefill
> username and password for new accounts! And the communication with
> kwallet! AUCH!
> 
> Torsdag den 11. april 2013 12:30:51 skrev Anders Lund:
>> I have removed and recreated the account several times. The
>> second dialog asking for wallet access does not come up every
>> time, but the rest of the horror is stable.
>> 
>> I got to a state where the account was created, and asked for it
>> to fetch mail, which gets me a dialog claiming a server access
>> error, and a "try again" button. Pressing that, I am asked for a
>> password - but hey, I did provide that. Why do you ask again???
>> Well, after retyping the password and OKing that dialog, the
>> account is now listed as "ready" in the account list.
>> 
>> But WHERE IS MY MAIL???? Shouldn't there be a inbox folder in my
>> folder list?
>> 
>> In any case, this is a horrible dialog hell!
>> 
>> AndersTorsdag den 11. april 2013 12:10:29 skrev  Lund:
>>> Forgot some idiotic issues:
>>> 
>>> When the kmail/akonadi account settings dialog is OKed, the
>>> account lists in kmail like this: "no server configured yet".
>>> 
>>> No folder is added to the kmail folder list, which is what I
>>> expect.
>>> 
>>> I'm closing in on kmail not being usable for my re	quirements,
>>> once again, and I find it really, really unacceptable.
>>> 
>>> AndersTorsdag den 11. april 2013 12:06:41 skrev  Lund:
>>>> I just got a new IMAP account, and tried to configure kmail
>>>> to use it.
>>>> 
>>>> I opened kmail settings, went to accounts and clicked new,
>>>> then selected IMAP server.
>>>> 
>>>> A dialog came up, asking for access to my wallet for an
>>>> accunt named "IMAP account 5" (or thereabout).
>>>> 
>>>> I confirm, and a dialog for configuring that account came up,
>>>> prefilled with my username and password from another account.
>>>> STUPID!!
>>>> 
>>>> I correct the account name to something useful, replaces the
>>>> username and password and clicks OK.
>>>> 
>>>> A dialog comes up asking for access to the wallet for the
>>>> renamed account. DOOOOOOOOOH, DUDE! But I grant it.
>>>> 
>>>> Now starts a fight with various error messages, they appear
>>>> in stacks. Some of them claims that "the user does not allow
>>>> access to the wallet". Which is not so, of course.
>>>> 
>>>> At this point I am not sure if the information I gor for the
>>>> account is wrong, or if it is just kmail that is so bad in
>>>> this iteration that it does not support creating a new IMAP
>>>> account at all.
>>>> 
>>>> I do know one thing, though:
>>>> 
>>>> How sadly horrible!
Well, I only have one IMAP account (at outlook.com no less...) and it
works. Not without glitches, especially for sending. But I am nowhere
NEAR the problems you describe.

I set it up, it was created as a separate inbox/folder tree - as I
expected, Outlook and Thunderbird works the same way. Then I had to
tick what folders to subscribe to - yes that was not very intuitive
but better than getting tons of mail coming in from gmail (if you had
set up IMAP to email you were likely get ALL mail from whenever
otherwise).

So I have to disagree but "only" because my experience of setting up
the 1 IMAP account I have differ very much from yours. I had no
password issues and it fetches what it is supposed to fetch once I set
it up.

Best,
Örjan Sinclair
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