[kdenlive] Kdenlive website and brand logo?

Thu Mar 31 19:37:41 UTC 2016

Hi Jesse,

The render icon red makes sense when referring to record buttons
traditionally etc but I agree that there is no danger in pressing it, so
the red doesn't serve a warning purpose. (Although I noticed that I am
quicker to find it the moment I am ready to render, which makes me/kdenlive
feels efficient.)

The trash icon is probably red to warn although I don't see the need. It
can be undone and there's a popup if the clip is used. But even though it
draws attention to it sometimes, I didn't think it was a problem.

I think it'd be worth mentioning in regards to the playhead marker because
it is a central element, nearly like the cursor in a drawing app. I believe
it is standard to have it black or white in timelines in both video and
audio production software.
The suggested purpose of the orange mockup is to color-match with the logo
rather than a utility function. Also orange is close to red, which is used
in timelines to indicate a cut action.

Cheers,
Iwan

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Jesse DuBord <jesse.dubord at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Iwan,
>
> Appreciate the feedback sir. Though, I'd have to respectfully disagree. I
> agree wholly that much of the color in the program should be related to
> purpose. However, there are plenty of little accent colors that exist just
> for aesthetics, and they don't come off as ambiguous or do the program any
> harm (e.g. the effects and transitions have a variety of colors, though
> they don't have any pattern as far as function categorically, or the trash
> icon in the Project Bin being a different color than the rest of the icons,
> or the render icon having a red dot in it).
>
> I agree that the color might be a little faded; but maybe a more vibrant
> orange - but still relatively close - would do better.
>
> What I like about Farid's logo is that each component is - to me - a
> symbol of the Kdenlive interface: the left bars I associate with the
> timeline, the cursor is the timeline position cursor, and the "play" icon
> represents the final product of Kdenlive (a final video file). Not sure if
> that's what Farid was intending, but that's what I take from it.
>
> I don't think an accent color for the timeline cursor would do the
> timeline any harm at all. That said, it's a small suggestion for
> consideration. It's not a hill to die on. :) Just thought it'd look cool.
> Every program should have its own unique touches here and there, you know?
>
> On 03/31/2016 11:37 AM, Iwan Gabovitch wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It its much less visible, the orange doesn't look good on top of the UI.
>
> Trying to match colors in icon, logo, software UI and website is a
> problematic idea. Each of these products has a function very different from
> each other and colors in these products should be used with purpose other
> than product identity.
>
> If it is wanted to promote product identity, I'd suggest placing the logo
> in the background (about half opacity) in the bottom right corner of the
> project bin area and make it possible to disable it in the settings (shown
> by default).
>
> Cheers,
> Iwan
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Jesse DuBord <jesse.dubord at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Great stuff, Farid and JB.
>>
>> A small thought about associating the new logo with the program: what
>> about changing the color of the timeline position cursor in the program to
>> the shade of orange in the new logo? It looks like it would compliment the
>> program in both Breeze and Breeze Dark themes.
>>
>> Here are some mock-ups I made:
>> Breeze Dark -
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0xu5zvf8kv8k2f/kdenlive%20new%20cursor%20color%20-%20breeze%20dark.jpg?dl=0
>> Breeze Light -
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/kfqhqtof48rchos/kdenlive%20new%20cursor%20color%20-%20breeze%20light.jpg?dl=0
>>
>> What do you all think?
>>
>> On 03/31/2016 05:00 AM, kdenlive-request at kde.org wrote:
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>>> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:29:45 +0200
>>> From: Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <jb at kdenlive.org>
>>> To: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [kdenlive] Kdenlive website and brand logo?
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>>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:18:53 PM CET, farid abdelnour wrote:
>>>
>>>> hey guys
>>>>
>>>> here is our last proposal for the logo. thanks to all who
>>>> helped out. we are finishing the website proposal.
>>>>
>>>> direct link:
>>>> http://i.imgur.com/jgFjMkB.png
>>>>
>>>> forum post:
>>>> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=131250&p=353737#p353737
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>> Hello Farid,
>>>
>>> Sorry it took so long to answer. We had an interesting exchange on the
>>> last
>>> Kdenlive café about your logo proposal and the website (1), and everyone
>>> agrees that the logo looks great.
>>>
>>> We decided to ask the KDE VDG (visual Design Group) what they think about
>>> the logo in KDE's forum (2), to have their feedback, and it looks like
>>> they
>>> love it too.
>>>
>>> My only concern was the scalability of the logo for an icon, but I saw on
>>> the forum that you are working on an icon version, so that's perfect.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your work!
>>>
>>> On the website topic, there were many comments / ideas, we will need to
>>> discuss it further, also find someone willing to implement the ideas and
>>> decide between keeping Drupal or switching to a static site generator..
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jean-Baptiste Mardelle
>>>
>>> (1) https://notes.kde.org/public/kdenlive-cafe04
>>> (2) https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=131757
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