<div dir="ltr">Hi Jesse,<div><br></div><div>The render icon red makes sense when referring to record buttons traditionally etc but I agree that there is no danger in pressing it, so the red doesn't serve a warning purpose. (Although I noticed that I am quicker to find it the moment I am ready to render, which makes me/kdenlive feels efficient.)</div><div><br></div><div>The trash icon is probably red to warn although I don't see the need. It can be undone and there's a popup if the clip is used. But even though it draws attention to it sometimes, I didn't think it was a problem.</div><div><br></div><div>I think it'd be worth mentioning in regards to the playhead marker because it is a central element, nearly like the cursor in a drawing app. I believe it is standard to have it black or white in timelines in both video and audio production software. </div><div>The suggested purpose of the orange mockup is to color-match with the logo rather than a utility function. Also orange is close to red, which is used in timelines to indicate a cut action.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Iwan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Jesse DuBord <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jesse.dubord@gmail.com" target="_blank">jesse.dubord@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi Iwan,<br>
<br>
Appreciate the feedback sir. Though, I'd have to respectfully
disagree. I agree wholly that much of the color in the program
should be related to purpose. However, there are plenty of little
accent colors that exist just for aesthetics, and they don't come
off as ambiguous or do the program any harm (e.g. the effects and
transitions have a variety of colors, though they don't have any
pattern as far as function categorically, or the trash icon in the
Project Bin being a different color than the rest of the icons, or
the render icon having a red dot in it).<br>
<br>
I agree that the color might be a little faded; but maybe a more
vibrant orange - but still relatively close - would do better.<br>
<br>
What I like about Farid's logo is that each component is - to me - a
symbol of the Kdenlive interface: the left bars I associate with the
timeline, the cursor is the timeline position cursor, and the "play"
icon represents the final product of Kdenlive (a final video file).
Not sure if that's what Farid was intending, but that's what I take
from it. <br>
<br>
I don't think an accent color for the timeline cursor would do the
timeline any harm at all. That said, it's a small suggestion for
consideration. It's not a hill to die on. :) Just thought it'd look
cool. Every program should have its own unique touches here and
there, you know?<br>
<br>
<div>On 03/31/2016 11:37 AM, Iwan Gabovitch
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It its much less visible, the orange doesn't look good on
top of the UI.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Trying to match colors in icon, logo, software UI and
website is a problematic idea. Each of these products has a
function very different from each other and colors in these
products should be used with purpose other than product
identity.</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If it is wanted to promote product identity, I'd suggest
placing the logo in the background (about half opacity) in the
bottom right corner of the project bin area and make it
possible to disable it in the settings (shown by default).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Iwan</div>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Jesse
DuBord <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jesse.dubord@gmail.com" target="_blank">jesse.dubord@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Great
stuff, Farid and JB.<br>
<br>
A small thought about associating the new logo with the
program: what about changing the color of the timeline
position cursor in the program to the shade of orange in the
new logo? It looks like it would compliment the program in
both Breeze and Breeze Dark themes.<br>
<br>
Here are some mock-ups I made:<br>
Breeze Dark - <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0xu5zvf8kv8k2f/kdenlive%20new%20cursor%20color%20-%20breeze%20dark.jpg?dl=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0xu5zvf8kv8k2f/kdenlive%20new%20cursor%20color%20-%20breeze%20dark.jpg?dl=0</a><br>
Breeze Light - <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/kfqhqtof48rchos/kdenlive%20new%20cursor%20color%20-%20breeze%20light.jpg?dl=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/kfqhqtof48rchos/kdenlive%20new%20cursor%20color%20-%20breeze%20light.jpg?dl=0</a><br>
<br>
What do you all think?<br>
<br>
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From: Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <<a href="mailto:jb@kdenlive.org" target="_blank">jb@kdenlive.org</a>><br>
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On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:18:53 PM CET, farid
abdelnour wrote:<br>
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hey guys<br>
<br>
here is our last proposal for the logo. thanks to
all who<br>
helped out. we are finishing the website proposal.<br>
<br>
direct link:<br>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/jgFjMkB.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/jgFjMkB.png</a><br>
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forum post:<br>
<a href="https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=131250&p=353737#p353737" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=131250&p=353737#p353737</a><br>
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cheers<br>
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Hello Farid,<br>
<br>
Sorry it took so long to answer. We had an interesting
exchange on the last<br>
Kdenlive café about your logo proposal and the website
(1), and everyone<br>
agrees that the logo looks great.<br>
<br>
We decided to ask the KDE VDG (visual Design Group)
what they think about<br>
the logo in KDE's forum (2), to have their feedback,
and it looks like they<br>
love it too.<br>
<br>
My only concern was the scalability of the logo for an
icon, but I saw on<br>
the forum that you are working on an icon version, so
that's perfect.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks for your work!<br>
<br>
On the website topic, there were many comments /
ideas, we will need to<br>
discuss it further, also find someone willing to
implement the ideas and<br>
decide between keeping Drupal or switching to a static
site generator..<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Jean-Baptiste Mardelle<br>
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(1) <a href="https://notes.kde.org/public/kdenlive-cafe04" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://notes.kde.org/public/kdenlive-cafe04</a><br>
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