[kdenlive] Volunteering website help - if needed?
snd.noise at gmail.com
Mon Jan 25 22:02:09 UTC 2016
i am one of the people interested in helping out with the website. i guess
the first step would be to choose if we are gonna stick to the current
platform (drupal) and update it since there might be some security flaws or
switch to a different one (wordpress?). our lead designer here at the
studio can take care of all the design of the website and if we choose
wordpress i can apply it (i am not familiar with drupal). eventually we
will do a research and develop a design best suited for everyone's demands
and needs. i did a quick look around at other video, audio and graphics
programs to start getting an idea about what is out there:
parallel to this we can start thinking about writing/organizing the content
and structure. (which is the most important thing.) like ttguy said, i
agree that content is the most important but it should be well presented to
the visitors. we can point to the forum, wiki and bug tracker from the
website and users eventually will use the other services if necessary.
if you'd like to continue this conversation here it is fine by me,
otherwise we can switch to the forum.
2016-01-21 19:50 GMT-02:00 Roger Morton <ttguy1 at gmail.com>:
> I have been involved in doing some maintenance of the content on both
> the kdenlive.org web site and on the userbase.kde wiki.
> Historically the kdenlive.org site was where everything happened. It
> was the manual, the forum, the place to make anouncements and to
> advertise how to get Kdenlive.
> Then for various reasons - as have already been mentioned - we moved a
> lot of this functionality to kde infra structure and closed the
> kdenlive.org web site to new user registration. Now if we are thinking
> of putting more content back on the kdenlive.org website we need to
> consider the future maintenance burden.
> The way to limit maintenance burden is to have a large number of
> contributors to the maintenance task. We can get this on the
> userbase.kde wiki since new user registrations are open. We can't get
> this so easily on kdenlive.org because new automatic registrations are
> closed. We could try opening up kdenlive.org again to new user
> registrations but I have to tell you that last time we had this open
> we were getting 5 or more fake spammer account registrations per day.
> I believe that the security on the registrations system had been
> exploited somehow because I would see authorised users that had never
> been sent a confirmation email. This the reason we turned off
> registration completely. Maybe this exploit has been fixed. I dunno.
> But this just something to consider in all this.
> While I agree that the attractiveness of the site is important I
> believe the accuracy of the content on the site is more important.
> And I don't think we should duplicate information.
> We have
> to speak to installation
> and we have https://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/Tutorials for
> So I am thinking more on the lines that Vincent mentioned. The
> kdenlive.org site can have some nice looking promotional material that
> is fairly generic in nature and not requiring too much maintanance. It
> should link to the more dynamic information at the userbase.kde manual
> >(3) Direct the viewer easily to a web page or location where they can get
> it... or at least show how they can get it.
> This is of course one of our biggest issues and has been for ages.
> There is no way to have simple instructions on how to get it because
> everyone must rely on the package managers of their various linux
> distros. But if we had more contributors to the doco then we might
> have users from all different distros updating the doco to tell people
> how to install it on their flavor of linux.
> While we there is a mood about helping out with doco I would make a
> plea to people to help out on the userbase.kde manual. I did a lot of
> work on it a few years ago and got it to a point where it was pretty
> comprehensive. I had pages covering every menu item (not every effect
> or transition had a page - but a skeleton link to create a page was
> there). But now - with the major overall that kdenlive has undergone
> - it is out of date in many places. So if people have "documentation
> fever" they could help out on the userbase.org wiki. - register a kde
> identity account here https://identity.kde.org/?r=registration/index/
> I summary my plea to people is to not focus too much on the sexiness
> of the websites but to focus on getting the content right. If you see
> something wrong just fix it !
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