[Kdenlive-devel] Kdenlive Kickstarter

Sat Jan 7 03:53:33 UTC 2012

Heyhey. Im still here. Its been a really hectic couple of months.

I think a 3 min expose on the mission, progress and prospects of kdenlive
would be perfect. Setting up interviews with developers and users etc.

We can also feature clips from films that show off kdenlives best features.

Im based out of the NYC area so if theres anyone around here interested in
being interviewed, thatd be great.
On Jan 6, 2012 3:55 PM, "Till Theato" <root at ttill.de> wrote:

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> @Ernie: Are you still around here?
> What do you think of what your idea developed into?
>
>
> On 12/23/2011 02:47 PM, Till Theato wrote:
> > On 11/21/2011 03:59 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote:
> >> On 11/20/2011 09:57 PM, Till Theato wrote: On 10/13/2011 09:11
> >> PM, Dan Dennedy wrote:
> >>>>>
> http://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2011/10/the-state-of-diaspora-and-fund.php
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >
> >>>>>
> After this and Novacut, I feel that most open source projects run
> >>>>> through Kickstarter end up receiving a lot of resentment.
> >>>>> The community funding model does not match the user
> >>>>> expectations.
> >
> >>> Why we need to refactor Kdenlive before continuing to work on
> >>> its features:
> >
> >> Additionally: When I first had the idea of working full time on
> >> Kdenlive I thought about some neat new features (definitely no
> >> special effects though ;)). Such a defined goal would probably
> >> make a fund raising more attractive. However since I'll have very
> >> little time till April and since nobody did have much time in the
> >> past few months this probably won't work out. I am not willing to
> >> add any big features to the existing code. While it has served
> >> Kdenlive great in the past it's structures can't hold all of
> >> Kdenlive's features anymore. That's what we concluded in Randa.
> >
> >>> See? ;) That's how I'd sell it.
> >
> > If you think that'll convince potential donators...
> >
> >>> And maybe add a little more, like: Which features would/could
> >>> you add afterwards, when refactoring is done? Is stability
> >>> increased as well?
> >
> > Well, I personally probably won't be available much afterwards and
> > therefore won't be able to add any new features. But of course we
> > can mention the plans you others have.
> >
> >>> What other benefits are there for the users? Does Granjow have
> >>> git access as well now? (Yes, he does! :D) (Now that I read it
> >>> again, maybe the last point is not so important to mention)
> >
> >>> Regarding the refactoring process itself. Do you think it
> >>> would make sense if * we other devs would again look at the
> >>> code and check what could be improved in the code * someone
> >>> external did a code review (if we find volunteers) before you
> >>> start working?
> >
> > Both ideas sound good. I also plan to publish some ideas on the
> > general approach to refactoring Kdenlive.
> >
> >
> >>> Simon
> >
> >> So I would have to work on refactoring. But how do you sell
> >> refactoring?
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Simon A. Eugster
> >>>>> <simon.eu at gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>>>> On 19.09.2011 19:32, Till Theato wrote:
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> >>>>>>> On 09/17/2011 11:10 PM, Ernie Zahn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hey Simon Sounds great! I'll draft a script then?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Wait, wait, wait ... (just a little bit ;)) but thanks
> >>>>>>> for the will to take care of this!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is no 100% certainty that I'll be able to spend
> >>>>>>> this time on Kdenlive, so we need an alternative just
> >>>>>>> in case. I'd also like to hear opinions from the
> >>>>>>> others about how money donated to Kdenlive should be
> >>>>>>> used. Maybe someone else would also be able to spend
> >>>>>>> some time on Kdenlive? Maybe Hardware?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> @Till, I think the fact that Novacut just did one is
> >>>>>>>> a good reason to do one now. Kdenlive is public and
> >>>>>>>> is waaay past proof of concept. Users can test drive
> >>>>>>>> it for themselves. We could advertise at as funding
> >>>>>>>> for version 1.0. I can speak to that personally since
> >>>>>>>> I haven't been developing but it's a thought.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We then have to make sure we don't promise to much, so
> >>>>>>> we don't frustrate anyone.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hehe. Sometimes I wonder if we at kdenlive are too
> >>>>>> honest. Others promise a better world and want money
> >>>>>> before they even know how to do it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I saw some smaller projects on kickstarter as well. What
> >>>>>> about putting just your 2 months on kickstarter as soon
> >>>>>> as you know you can spend your time on
> >
> >> I will be able to work on it for 8-10 weeks somewhere between
> >> April (including) and July (including).
> >
> >>>>>> doing it? I'm not sure if a bigger campaign would help
> >>>>>> us too much at the moment, since our main limit is not
> >>>>>> money but time. And more programmers ;)
> >
> >> Even at this scale it will definitely require quite some work.
> >>>
> >
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