[Kdenlive-devel] Drag Value

[Till Theato]

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On 01/27/2011 11:57 PM, Gabriel Gazzán wrote:
> All contributions are good, without a doubt, and all the ideas presented
> here have good points.
> I tend to favor the solution that allows the "controls part" of the
> interface to be the smallest possible of all, provided it has good
> usability, naturally.
> Of them all, I still think the Adobe style sliders are the ones that are
> better.
> They provide interactive dragging functionality, they provide direct numeric
> input and they are the smallest possible expression of a widget. But perhaps
> most of all, they are extensively proven and familiar to all professional,
> semi professional and amateur graphics designers, video editors and post
> producers worldwide that use any Adobe program (and they are a LOT), so
> we're making them feel at home in Kdenlive.
> 
> I personally have used extensively this kind of widget and I long for it in
> every other program I also use. They are so useful and so efficient that I
> seriously wonder myself, how is that all the other programs haven't
> implemented it yet!!
> 
> Regarding the lack of limits awarenes while dragging, this doesn't seem to
> affect the ability to drag at all. Moreover, there are parameters that
> doesn't have limits at all, like a position coordinate or a rotation, for
> example...
> 
> Regarding the current Kdenlive implementation shown in 'jb' mockup, I like

Not implemented yet.

> it!! well done!! :)
> I'd just remove (or hide) the slider by default (perhaps giving the chance
> to bring it back with an option in the program Preferences)
> Another thing I'd remove from sight are the Reset icon, substituting it with
> a 'right click option' over the numeric value.
> 
> In my opinion anything that allows the UI to devote more size to the actual
> video and timeline and less to any other controls is a good thing!
> (I'd of course also hide the top buttons bar by default, and perhaps place a
> Render button in the already present bottom toolbar to save more space. But
> that's for another discussion ;)

Why not use the Ctrl + Enter shortcut ? ;)

> 
> Well, just my 0,0001 cent
> 


I will try to improve the widget soon but I'm a bit busy at the moment.
Of course if someone else is willing to have a look at it that would be
totally awesome.

regards Till


> Gabriel
> 
> 
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> 2011/1/27 jb <jb at kdenlive.org>
> 
>> On Thursday 27 January 2011 05:42:39 Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>>>> I haven't seen this new Krita widget yet, can you point me to a
>>>> screenshot showing it?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Don't have it around, but it should be something in the lines of:
>>>
>>> http://mmiworks.net/test/small.png
>>
>> The current KOffice implementation is not really efficient in my opinion.
>> It does
>> not support mouse wheel, nor direct value input through keyboard, and the
>> up/down arrow are too small to be useful.
>>
>> About Till's current widget, I also find it disturbing not to see the
>> boundaries, user has no idea whether the max value is 100 or 6000. Also, I
>> prefer linear scale when dragging, but it's not really useful when you need
>> to
>> scroll from 0 to 6000 (yes, some effects have that value range) - you would
>> need to drag 6 times your whole monitor width to go to the may value...
>>
>> After thinking a bit about it, I posted a screenshot showing a possible
>> widget
>> that might come around the limitations noted above. You can see a mockup
>> at:
>>
>> http://kdenlive.org/images/widget_idea.png
>>
>> However I have no idea how hard it would be to implement it, I only thought
>> about the design for the moment.
>>
>> regards
>> jb
>>
>>
>>
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