[Kdenlive-devel] Drag Value

[Gabriel Gazzán]

All contributions are good, without a doubt, and all the ideas presented
here have good points.
I tend to favor the solution that allows the "controls part" of the
interface to be the smallest possible of all, provided it has good
usability, naturally.
Of them all, I still think the Adobe style sliders are the ones that are
better.
They provide interactive dragging functionality, they provide direct numeric
input and they are the smallest possible expression of a widget. But perhaps
most of all, they are extensively proven and familiar to all professional,
semi professional and amateur graphics designers, video editors and post
producers worldwide that use any Adobe program (and they are a LOT), so
we're making them feel at home in Kdenlive.

I personally have used extensively this kind of widget and I long for it in
every other program I also use. They are so useful and so efficient that I
seriously wonder myself, how is that all the other programs haven't
implemented it yet!!

Regarding the lack of limits awarenes while dragging, this doesn't seem to
affect the ability to drag at all. Moreover, there are parameters that
doesn't have limits at all, like a position coordinate or a rotation, for
example...

Regarding the current Kdenlive implementation shown in 'jb' mockup, I like
it!! well done!! :)
I'd just remove (or hide) the slider by default (perhaps giving the chance
to bring it back with an option in the program Preferences)
Another thing I'd remove from sight are the Reset icon, substituting it with
a 'right click option' over the numeric value.

In my opinion anything that allows the UI to devote more size to the actual
video and timeline and less to any other controls is a good thing!
(I'd of course also hide the top buttons bar by default, and perhaps place a
Render button in the already present bottom toolbar to save more space. But
that's for another discussion ;)

Well, just my 0,0001 cent

Gabriel




2011/1/27 jb <jb at kdenlive.org>

> On Thursday 27 January 2011 05:42:39 Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> > > I haven't seen this new Krita widget yet, can you point me to a
> > > screenshot showing it?
> > > Thanks!
> >
> > Don't have it around, but it should be something in the lines of:
> >
> > http://mmiworks.net/test/small.png
>
> The current KOffice implementation is not really efficient in my opinion.
> It does
> not support mouse wheel, nor direct value input through keyboard, and the
> up/down arrow are too small to be useful.
>
> About Till's current widget, I also find it disturbing not to see the
> boundaries, user has no idea whether the max value is 100 or 6000. Also, I
> prefer linear scale when dragging, but it's not really useful when you need
> to
> scroll from 0 to 6000 (yes, some effects have that value range) - you would
> need to drag 6 times your whole monitor width to go to the may value...
>
> After thinking a bit about it, I posted a screenshot showing a possible
> widget
> that might come around the limitations noted above. You can see a mockup
> at:
>
> http://kdenlive.org/images/widget_idea.png
>
> However I have no idea how hard it would be to implement it, I only thought
> about the design for the moment.
>
> regards
> jb
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
> price-free!
> Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
> February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
> _______________________________________________
> Kdenlive-devel mailing list
> Kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kdenlive/attachments/20110127/f1fe2bc2/attachment.html>