[Kdenlive-devel] Drag Value

[Simon Eugster]

2011/2/8 Gabriel Gazzán <gabcorreo at gmail.com>:
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> 2011/2/8 Simon Eugster <simon.eu at gmail.com>
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>> http://granjow.net/uploads/kdenlive/kdenlive-effect-stack-2line.png
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>> I want to highlight that it is also possible to make controls _too_
>> small. They just _do_ require space. Video Editing tends to use more
>> space than other applications, like for example a web browser, this is
>> just a fact. You won't get anywhere with 800x600, for example.
>> Let's not make the error to minimize controls until they cannot be
>> controlled anymore. Simplify yes, but not on the costs of comfort.
>>
>> On my screen I've got plenty of space :P
>> http://kdenlive.org/sites/default/files/images/kdenlive-layout-editing.png
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> Well, to be honest, you seem to have lots of space at this resolution, but
> you're not using it to be more productive either.
> You just have lots of blank spaces here and there (I'm talking of the upper
> left panel of the interface, of course, the rest is ok)
> If this "Transition panel" required less space, perhaps you could have
> another panel opened to the left at the same time (Project Tree,
> Vectorscope, whatever...)

Yes, I could open plenty other windows. Point is, that does not
enhance productivity, at least not for me. Why should I have a
vectorscope there? If I do colour correction, I need all scopes anyway
and display all of them.
I try to put everything away that is not necessary. In order to have
maximum size for each widget. Navigation in the Composite is more
precise, the Project Tree needs less scrolling and shows more of the
file name, and so on. I could also put the Transition and Effect Stack
widgets side by side, but I cannot edit a transition and an effect
simultaneously anyway, so I stack them (kdenlive automatically
displays the correct widget when selecting a clip or a transition).

>> > To me After Effects effects stack has the answer for this as well.
>> > http://www.rtraction.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/vine-2.gif
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>> Collapsible parameters and scroll bars, death of fluent working.
>
> That should be the main cause of After Effects having failed miserably as a
> commercial product all these years. ;)

Commercial success does not imply a perfect interface. I would say it
is rather the case that After Effects has a little more effects which
also are a little better than for example ours.

>> > Regarding the "show in timeline" option, I'm thinking that it'd be
>> > useful to
>> > also have a faster way of setting it, besides the right click menu.
>> > Perhaps
>> > Ctrl + click, Shift + click, Alt + click (or any combination) over the
>> > parameter to make it the shown one.
>>
>> Or just click on the number? This would as well not change the value.
>
> Aren't the numbers editable uppon clicking on them?

But not changed directly. We could avoid the need to press an additional button.

Simon