[Kdenlive-devel] TalkOSS and Kdenlive

Sun Jun 13 12:21:36 UTC 2010

Hi Simon,

Thanks for the well wishes and hopefully being Irish might bring me enough
luck to get this working ;) I'm currently working on the project now
actually, one of the things that I didn't mention in my original email is
that I already professionally recorded Ogg Camp in Liverpool this year (
oggcamp.org) An Have at least 9 talks, 18 tapes, that I am in the process of
editing. I've already identified 2 crashes and added bug reports to the MTL
library tracker so one could argue that it's already paying off!

I completely agree with the point of having to improve MLT. I want to
develop a new MTL feature myself but I just haven't quite figured out the
application stack and what needs to go where quite yet, I will be emailing
this list with my feature requests/ideas/plans sometime soon (when I get a
second to do it).

I presume there will be some MLT hackers on this list too or should I seek
out the MLT mailing list and start the discussion there too? what do you
think?

Cheers,
Chris

On 13 June 2010 13:08, Simon A. Eugster <simon.eu at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> Sounds interesting. This kind of development (start working on a project
> and add missing features) is my favourite one :)
>
> Depending on what you'll need it actually won't be kdenlive only to improve
> but also MLT.
>
> Looking forward to your project, and good luck!
> Simon
>
> On 11.06.2010 09:32, Andrew Manson wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I was chatting on the IRC channel Wednesday night with Alberto and got a
> > chance to a discuss proposal I have for the Kdenlive team with him. All
> > and all Alberto seemed like he liked the idea but urged me to bring the
> > discussion up on the mailing list, so that's why I'm here!
> >
> > I would call myself a KDE developer (even though I have not been
> > developing for a while now) and have worked quite extensively on the
> > Marble Desktop Globe project. Lately I have been working on a new
> > project, apart from development, that will need some help/collaboration
> > from the Kdenlive team and hopefully will end up with a mutually
> > beneficial relationship between Kdenlive and TalkOSS.
> >
> > The "big idea" is actually quite simple but has not yet been done quite
> > right by anyone else. Let me explain....
> >
> > We have many great Open Source Conferences around the world that are
> > informative, useful to the community and sometimes quite entertaining. A
> > lot of effort has been put into the organisation of the kind of events
> > and at some of them (sometimes only ones with bigger budgets) there has
> > been some effort put into recording the conferences. I have been to two
> > of the larger ones that have had these higher budget recordings but
> > there has been something lacking from these recordings and that has
> > resulted in some pretty poor quality videos being released sometimes up
> > to 4 months later than the conference. An example of such a video is
> > currently up on my website www.talkoss.com <http://www.talkoss.com>.
> >
> > My vision is to have professional people record these conferences,
> > because that professional edge will be noticed instantaneously in the
> > quality of the videos. Also I would like to have one place on the
> > Internet where everyone can come together and watch these videos without
> > having to go to disparate corners of the Internet to piece together an
> > experience of a conference. There needs to be no barrier to entry in
> > either the quality or the availability of the videos and I hope to be
> > the man to give that to the world, with a bit of help.
> >
> > This is where you guys come in. If I am planning to provide the world
> > with professional quality videos I need a professional quality editing
> > suite to edit them. I could invest in a professional suite like Adobe
> > Final Cut pro but this is a no-go for 2 reasons. Firstly I will be
> > starting this venture on a donations only basis to hopefully just break
> > even and spending all of the generous donations on licencing fees
> > instead of putting it to good work would seem criminal. Secondly, and
> > this is much more important in my opinion, I don't believe that it is
> > inherently *right* to be in the business of promoting open source and
> > not be using open source tools for the entire process. This probably
> > shows up my feelings about open source quite strongly but I a am a
> > fanatic an I will always strive for what I believe in, and never
> > compromise on the important things.
> >
> > Having made the decision to use open source tools I will inevitably be
> > compromising on the stability and feature set of the editing suite for
> > what I believe in, but I only see this as a short term problem. One of
> > the things that I mentioned to Alberto on Wednesday was that I really
> > like the concept of the Blender Foundation's "Project Peach" which most
> > of you will know as Big Buck Bunny. They set out to produce a
> > professional quality short animated film with blender and at any
> > stumbling block where they needed a particular feature or the stability
> > of the core was not up to scratch they had a team of developers to
> > improve the blender software so that they could get the job done. This
> > was a very successful project and ended up in some really exciting
> > improvements being made to Blender and I don't see any reason why we
> > cannot recreate the same effect. The "big project" this time will be
> > TalkOSS.
> >
> > This is enough for my introductory email. I will need to start some
> > separate discussions on what I feel we need to do, organisationally, to
> > get this idea off the ground but those should be discussion items and
> > should be separate from this email. And also, just to be clear, I'm not
> > just coming around here asking for you guys to develop things for me so
> > that I can get TalkOSS off the ground. I am instead offering my services
> > as a developer and a heavy user/tester but my focus will be more so
> > using the tool instead of developing new and exciting features that I
> > won't need, in very much the same way as the Big Buck Bunny crew did.
> >
> > I'm sorry for the really long email but this is actually my first public
> > announcement of the TalkOSS project and I wanted it to be complete.
> > Please let me know what you all think of the idea and if you think we
> > could work together on this one.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chris Manson  (a.k.a Andrew, Chris is my middle name ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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