[Kdenlive-devel] Finally, a few keyboard shortcuts.

[Jason Wood]

On Monday 05 May 2003 10:27 am, Reinhard Amersberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> no comments about the editing ideas I mentioned?
> Again some lost message, I've didn't received?

Apologies, I've been AFK for a couple of days :-)

> Also it would be interestedly to know more about your editing ideas,
> following text editing concepts. Because also for editing it is necessary
> to have an overwrite and an insert mode, which will be  toggled in text
> editors  by pressing the insert key (I'm at work right now, so I just check
> this behaviour using windows WordPad. Did some Linux text editors - other
> then vi or emacs ;-)) -  following the same concept?).

I'm not sure how far the analogy can be held before it becomes problematic. I 
can see some potential for wanting to insert a clip in the middle of another 
clip, in effect performing the equivalent of two razors, a delete and an 
insert in one go, but if it would have good accuracy, I am unsure. Of course, 
you could then resize it, etc.

My biggest concern for the text edit-style idea is of how to choose which clip 
you want to insert in the first place. I'm still thinking about that one.

> > Maybe some special view modes could be another possibillity.
> > I mean having a standard view mode showing the source monitor and the
> > timeline monitor, a trim mode, a capture mode, a play out mode, ..... So
> > user simply have to choose one of this modes - maybe by the Fn keys - to
> > re-arrange the interface for this special purposes very fast.

I'm not sure I follow you, how does this differ from the implemented idea of 
layouts?

> > I also would like to move the selected stuff more precise.
> > The idea is to select a thing that should be moved by entering an exact
> > value. Things could be clips, borders, markers, In/Out points, key
> > frames, ...... Some examples:
> > - Select one or some clips or just a part of a clip, then enter 10 and
> > hit a key  to move this 10 frames to right. - Select the right border of
> > a clip, enter -1.10 and hit a key to move this clip border 1 second and
> > 10 frames to the left side.

You mean vi-style editing commands, right? It has crossed my mind ;-)

> > I've heard about a technique called JMB (libmustux) ........  hehehe -
> > just again the old joke!  ;-))

:-)

> > Also here comes some more ideas enhancing the In/Out and loop
> > functionallity:
> >
> > - Enter a value and press the I or O key to move the In/out point (like
> > the axamples above).

Ok, I'm not sure how easy this is to do with the KDE shortcul/accelerator 
architecture but I'll take a look.

> > - Press U to reset the In/Out points.

Should be straight forward.

> > - Press P to play from In to Out point

Ok.

> > - Press shift+P to loop the region from In to Out point.

Well, when looping is implemented, sure ;-)

> > - Go to the last edit and Press L to loop the last edit (some seconds
> > before and some after)

Not sure I understand what you mean with this one. Is the idea to let you have 
another attempt at setting the in/out points, or so that you can view the 
edit in relation to the timeline?

> > - Select the In or Out point - maybe by shift+I and shift+O - and use the
> > left and right arrow to move it by frames, just like the timeline cursor.
> >
> > - Press P+I to start a short play back (3 seconds ?) at the In point.
> >
> > - Press P+O to start a short play 'thru' the Out point

I'll see what I can do. Stay tuned :-)

Cheers,
Jason

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Jason Wood
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