[Kdenlive-devel] Finally, a few keyboard shortcuts.

Mon May 5 09:27:08 UTC 2003

Hi,

no comments about the editing ideas I mentioned?
Again some lost message, I've didn't received?

Also it would be interestedly to know more about your editing ideas, following text editing concepts.
Because also for editing it is necessary to have an overwrite and an insert mode, which will be  toggled in text editors  by pressing the insert key (I'm at work right now, so I just check this behaviour using windows WordPad. Did some Linux text editors - other then vi or emacs ;-)) -  following the same concept?).

greetings
Reinhard

kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net schrieb am 01.05.03 16:37:21:
> 
> kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net schrieb am 30.04.03 23:54:15:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Reinhard Amersberger [mailto:protux at web.de]
> > >
> > > What do you think about using the ESC-key to toggle between 
> > > the monitors?
> > > AVID use the ESC-key to activate the timeline, for example.
> > 
> > I'm not convinced that ESC would be the best key to pick, it doesn't feel as
> > if it fits with the KDE UI guidelines very well. But perhaps another key
> > would make sense - TAB seems to be the obvious one?
> 
> 
> But you convinced me! ;-))
> Yes, TAB seems to be a good choice.
> 
> Maybe some special view modes could be another possibillity.
> I mean having a standard view mode showing the source monitor and the timeline monitor, a trim mode, a capture mode, a play out mode, ..... 
> So user simply have to choose one of this modes - maybe by the Fn keys - to re-arrange the interface for this special purposes very fast.
> 
> 
>  
> > Incidentally, I have some thoughts on how to add keyboard editing commands
> > to the timeline itself. I'll mention it here, tell me what you think :
> > 
> > Have a keyboard "cursor" on the timeline. Like in a text edit session, this
> > can be moved forwards/backwards across the particular line, or it can be
> > moved up and down particular tracks. Pressing Ctrl-Left/Ctrl-Right moves you
> > to the end/beginning of the next clip. Selecting clips can be achieved via
> > the shift key - in other words, following the conventions of text editing.
> > 
> > Press a key, and you 'grab' either the selected clips, or the clip the
> > cursor is currently over. Move the cursor and the clips follow. Ctrl can
> > still be used to zoom around.
> 
> 
> This sounds to be a very good idea.
> 
> 
> I also would like to move the selected stuff more precise.
> The idea is to select a thing that should be moved by entering an exact value.
> Things could be clips, borders, markers, In/Out points, key frames, ......
> Some examples:
> - Select one or some clips or just a part of a clip, then enter 10 and hit a key  to move this 10 frames to right.
> - Select the right border of a clip, enter -1.10 and hit a key to move this clip border 1 second and 10 frames to the left side.
> 
> 
>  
> > I need to put more thought into it before I decide if it's a useful way of
> > working.  My idea is to have a complete or almost-complete keyboard based
> > way of editing for poor laptop users like myself :-), any
> > thoughts/suggestions, or alternative ways to do it?
> 
> 
> I've heard about a technique called JMB (libmustux) ........  hehehe - just again the old joke!  ;-))
> 
> But serious ... I was on the way to call Luciano if it is possible to use the libmustux just like a plug-in, so user could activate it if wanted, but unfortunatelly he is offline at the moment since he running out of money.
> But this will change soon AFAIK. :-)
> 
> 
> Also here comes some more ideas enhancing the In/Out and loop functionallity:
> 
> - Enter a value and press the I or O key to move the In/out point (like the axamples above).
> 
> - Press U to reset the In/Out points.
> 
> - Press P to play from In to Out point
> (the last two are stolen from Mainactor 5 ;-))
> 
> - Press shift+P to loop the region from In to Out point.
> 
> - Go to the last edit and Press L to loop the last edit (some seconds before and some after)
> 
> - Select the In or Out point - maybe by shift+I and shift+O - and use the left and right arrow to move it by frames, just like the timeline cursor.
> 
> - Press P+I to start a short play back (3 seconds ?) at the In point.
> 
> - Press P+O to start a short play 'thru' the Out point
>  
> 
>  
> > I've never been quite sure what the ALT GR key does :-)
> 
> 
> To be more precise - it's the key on the right side of the space bar and is used to access the third character.
> For example:
> Press '9' to print a '9'
> Press 'shift+9' to print a ')'
> Press 'Alt Gr+9' to print a ']'
> 
> 
> greetings
> Reinhard
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