KDE Connect integration
Aleix Pol
aleixpol at kde.org
Wed Apr 22 11:18:51 UTC 2015
I have no idea, adding Martin Klapetek as CC, KNotifications
maintainer. He might have some answers.
Aleix
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Albert Vaca <albertvaka at gmail.com> wrote:
> Some of the things that KDE Connect needs to do with the notifications are:
>
> - We need to get notified when they are dismissed (to dismiss them from the
> phone)
> - We need to be able to dismiss them programatically (when they are
> dismissed from the phone)
> - Some notifications should not be dimissable (in case they are not
> dismissable on the phone).
> - There should be a buton to dismiss all the dismissable notifications.
>
> Is it possible to implement this within the Plasma notification system?
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Albert Vaca <albertvaka at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> +kdeconnect mailing list
>>
>> Hi Kai Uwe,
>>
>> Sorry for not having a look at this until now.
>>
>> The main reason to not integrate with Solid in the first place was because
>> kdelibs was frozen due to the transition to Frameworks 5. Also, not using
>> standard notifications was because limitations in KDE4's notification system
>> (and a personal dislike with it :P) that were going to be solved in Plasma
>> 5.
>>
>> All this reasons should be obsolete now, and I think it would be awesome
>> if we can move the battery, notifications and file browser features from our
>> plasmoid to the Battery plasmoid, the Notifications plasmoid and the Dolphin
>> sidebar.
>>
>> The original KDE Connect plasmoid was just a workaround for the said
>> limitations and still feels hackish to me. So, I would be happy to even
>> remove it (or at least, have it disabled by default), and have everything
>> integrated with the desktop.
>>
>> Using standard notifications will even benefit the integration with other
>> desktops and make KDE Connect less Plasma-only, which is one of the project
>> goals for this year.
>>
>> I've seen the CR with WIP changes to Solid (I saw that Alex already
>> reviewed it, but I still want to have a look at the code). I'm looking
>> forward for this project to move forward and I'm more than happy to make the
>> changes needed in the KDE Connect desktop client for this integration to
>> happen :D
>>
>> Albert
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Kai Uwe Broulik <kde at privat.broulik.de>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Albert,
>>>
>>> first of all thank you for your work on KDE Connect!
>>>
>>> At my workplace a couple of colleagues switched over from Windows to use
>>> Plasma 5 and they're really enjoying KDE Connect. This made me think
>>> about how
>>> to better integrate it into our shell and make it an integral part of our
>>> user
>>> experience rather than a 3rd party kind of thing.
>>>
>>> I talked to the usability people and they told me "Only when it feels as
>>> if
>>> the phone were connected via USB then it's done right" which makes sense;
>>> I
>>> know that initially you added support to kdelibs solid to support showing
>>> the
>>> phone battery in the battery monitor. What were the reasons for not
>>> further
>>> pursuing that idea?
>>>
>>> Lukas Tinkl and I agreed that it makes sense, and we're totally willing
>>> to
>>> support, having a KDE Connect backend right in Solid itself - so I looked
>>> at
>>> your kdelibs-kdeconnect clone repo, ported it, and started improving on
>>> it.
>>>
>>> To me the most important aspects of workspace integration with KDE
>>> Connect is:
>>> - Have the battery status shown in the battery monitor [1]
>>> - Have the device accessible through the device notifier [2] (that could
>>> potentially enable us to have it added to Places automatically rather
>>> than KDE
>>> Connect being required to handle that manually)
>>> - Show notifications in the notification applet
>>>
>>> The latter is what Gnome nowadays does and also makes sense. I think the
>>> initial need for a separate plasmoid for that came from the limitations
>>> of the
>>> one in the 4.x times, right? Nowadays we can update and remove
>>> notifications
>>> properly, we could potentially also allow adding silent notifications
>>> that
>>> don't yield a popup, and add additional custom data so we could group the
>>> notifications by device and separate them from the system ones.
>>>
>>> Another area worth of investigation might be promoting KDE Connect within
>>> the
>>> Plasma Workspace; for instance, when, for the first time, you plug in
>>> your
>>> Android device via USB, or when you try to send files to it over
>>> Bluetooth a
>>> popup could tell you "Hey, with KDE Connect you can copy stuff around
>>> with
>>> ease, control your music, and much more! [Pair with phone] [QR Code for
>>> play
>>> store link]"
>>>
>>> I apologize for this long Email and am looking forward to hearing from
>>> you!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kai Uwe
>>>
>>> [1] http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/01/kdeconnectbattery.png Sorry for the
>>> German
>>> UI ;)
>>> [2] http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/01/kdeconnectdevicenotifier.png
>>>
>>
>
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