KDE Connect integration
Albert Vaca
albertvaka at gmail.com
Wed Apr 22 06:58:22 UTC 2015
Some of the things that KDE Connect needs to do with the notifications are:
- We need to get notified when they are dismissed (to dismiss them from the
phone)
- We need to be able to dismiss them programatically (when they are
dismissed from the phone)
- Some notifications should not be dimissable (in case they are not
dismissable on the phone).
- There should be a buton to dismiss all the dismissable notifications.
Is it possible to implement this within the Plasma notification system?
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Albert Vaca <albertvaka at gmail.com> wrote:
> +kdeconnect mailing list
>
> Hi Kai Uwe,
>
> Sorry for not having a look at this until now.
>
> The main reason to not integrate with Solid in the first place was because
> kdelibs was frozen due to the transition to Frameworks 5. Also, not using
> standard notifications was because limitations in KDE4's notification
> system (and a personal dislike with it :P) that were going to be solved in
> Plasma 5.
>
> All this reasons should be obsolete now, and I think it would be awesome
> if we can move the battery, notifications and file browser features from
> our plasmoid to the Battery plasmoid, the Notifications plasmoid and the
> Dolphin sidebar.
>
> The original KDE Connect plasmoid was just a workaround for the said
> limitations and still feels hackish to me. So, I would be happy to even
> remove it (or at least, have it disabled by default), and have everything
> integrated with the desktop.
>
> Using standard notifications will even benefit the integration with other
> desktops and make KDE Connect less Plasma-only, which is one of the project
> goals for this year.
>
> I've seen the CR with WIP changes to Solid (I saw that Alex already
> reviewed it, but I still want to have a look at the code). I'm looking
> forward for this project to move forward and I'm more than happy to make
> the changes needed in the KDE Connect desktop client for
> this integration to happen :D
>
> Albert
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Kai Uwe Broulik <kde at privat.broulik.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Albert,
>>
>> first of all thank you for your work on KDE Connect!
>>
>> At my workplace a couple of colleagues switched over from Windows to use
>> Plasma 5 and they're really enjoying KDE Connect. This made me think
>> about how
>> to better integrate it into our shell and make it an integral part of our
>> user
>> experience rather than a 3rd party kind of thing.
>>
>> I talked to the usability people and they told me "Only when it feels as
>> if
>> the phone were connected via USB then it's done right" which makes sense;
>> I
>> know that initially you added support to kdelibs solid to support showing
>> the
>> phone battery in the battery monitor. What were the reasons for not
>> further
>> pursuing that idea?
>>
>> Lukas Tinkl and I agreed that it makes sense, and we're totally willing to
>> support, having a KDE Connect backend right in Solid itself - so I looked
>> at
>> your kdelibs-kdeconnect clone repo, ported it, and started improving on
>> it.
>>
>> To me the most important aspects of workspace integration with KDE
>> Connect is:
>> - Have the battery status shown in the battery monitor [1]
>> - Have the device accessible through the device notifier [2] (that could
>> potentially enable us to have it added to Places automatically rather
>> than KDE
>> Connect being required to handle that manually)
>> - Show notifications in the notification applet
>>
>> The latter is what Gnome nowadays does and also makes sense. I think the
>> initial need for a separate plasmoid for that came from the limitations
>> of the
>> one in the 4.x times, right? Nowadays we can update and remove
>> notifications
>> properly, we could potentially also allow adding silent notifications that
>> don't yield a popup, and add additional custom data so we could group the
>> notifications by device and separate them from the system ones.
>>
>> Another area worth of investigation might be promoting KDE Connect within
>> the
>> Plasma Workspace; for instance, when, for the first time, you plug in your
>> Android device via USB, or when you try to send files to it over
>> Bluetooth a
>> popup could tell you "Hey, with KDE Connect you can copy stuff around with
>> ease, control your music, and much more! [Pair with phone] [QR Code for
>> play
>> store link]"
>>
>> I apologize for this long Email and am looking forward to hearing from
>> you!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kai Uwe
>>
>> [1] http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/01/kdeconnectbattery.png Sorry for the
>> German
>> UI ;)
>> [2] http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/01/kdeconnectdevicenotifier.png
>>
>>
>
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