Problems with recent plasma versions

Peter Humphrey peter at
Fri Oct 22 10:03:36 BST 2021

On Thursday, 21 October 2021 15:38:08 BST René J.V. Bertin wrote:
> On Thursday October 21 2021 14:21:06 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >Recent versions of plasma have been accompanied by KOrganiser losing its
> >imported calendar.
> That's not a Plasma DE problem, but something related to KDE PIM (akonadi).
> Best ask on kdepim-users (the ML).

Yes, but it seemed to appear at about the same time.

> >There's another problem too, with Konsole. I have three windows open
> >permanently on one desktop, and they used to reopen any time I logged in.
> >Now, they don't and I have to open them and reposition them every time.

In fact, they used to open with the prompt showing the directory it was in 
last time.

> How about windows of other applications?

Nothing else is affected.

> As you know, the Plasma DE has several options for restoring the session
> that was active on logout. By default (IIRC), it will restore the last used
> session, but you can also set it to define a fixed session upon the next
> logout, and then have that session restored every time.  If you use that
> option and the information somehow got lost that would explain your current
> issue. If you're not using it, you could check it out and see if it gives
> you the behaviour you want.

I haven't used anything like that, just log out of one session and log in 
again, expecting everything to be as I left it. That's how I set the startup 
options in System Settings, and it hasn't changed.

> BTW, which applications are started is indeed a Plasma responsibility, but
> window geometry is under control of both the window manager and the
> application itself. THat is, the application is responsible (AFAIK!) for
> saving its last window geometry via a function in the KWindowSystem
> framework (or defining its desired initial size, as in the case of
> Konsole), and the window manager is responsible for respecting that
> information (or not; there's a setting for that in the KWin preferences).

My impression, from watching the logout process, is that Konsole is not 
shutting itself down neatly, or at all, and eventually it just has the ground 
wrenched out from under it.

> >Also, whenlogging out, there's a pause before anything happens, then the
> >contents of those windows appear briefly on a black screen (not the windows
> >themselves, just whatever they were displaying).
> Again, only Konsole windows, or any and all windows?

Just Konsole.

> This sounds more like a Plasma issue, but it could also be a result of an
> update to your drivers or your X11 server. Or maybe you migrated to using
> Wayland?

This started happening just after a plasma update. I've nothing fancy in X or 
Wayland. This is an ~amd64 Gentoo system (in which everything is built from 
source, as you know): kde-apps/konsole 21.08.2,  kde-plasma/plasma-meta 
5.23.1, kde-frameworks/frameworkintegration 5.87.0.

I update the system daily. I've even rebuilt the whole system from bare metal, 
for another reason, and it hasn't helped.


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