Cute, you don't like my message, so I'm bounced as not subscribed

[Anne Wilson]

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On 15/11/2012 01:43, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 November 2012 20:13:20 Duncan did opine:
> 
> Sending address, the one the messege comes from can vary, IF I
> select the alternate gmail account.  I have it hard coded in the
> kmail prefs, and only if including someone in a Cc: do I ever type
> in their address.

The only time I see bounces is when I accidentally post with a wrong
address.  Some lists drop those messages, so if my message doesn't
appear on-list after an hour or so I check which ID was attached to
the message.

> However when it became obvious that the gmail as a sending server
> did 2 things I don't like, 1st, the echo back to me from the server
> is a dup according to gmail and deleted, so I wind up sending 2
> maybe 3 times before someone gets tired of it and chimes in that
> they saw all 3 msgs.  So I look like a spoilt brat, not something I
> want to be known as even if I am an only child. :)
> 
I deal with this by setting my folders to include send as well as
receive mail.  For private mail, people probably like GMail's setting,
but for lists a work-around is needed.

> And two, it seems every time I post thru gmail I get a blast of
> spam, 5 to 30 or more messages all in the next 20 minutes, then it
> peters out and returns to only 200 or so a day, quite a few of
> which are deep sixed by mailfilter, spamassassin & occasionally by
> clamd.  The survivors of that, currently range in the 20-25 daily
> range, are fed to sa-learn spam, and the worst offenders I might
> start checking return addresses and tell mailfilter to nuke them on
> site.  I currently have several class B addresses blocked, a
> growing number of class C's and probably 100 or more class D's all
> go to /dev/null long before they get to pester me anymore.
> 
This I can't understand.  I now send and receive all my mail through
GMail (they collect from my other addresses).  Their spam filter
catches hundreds every day and I get perhaps 4-5 a week getting
through.  I do not need any of the dance you describe, despite being
subscribed to very many lists.

It's really hard for us to guess why your setup gets problems that
ours don't.

Anne
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