convert to kde on Windows 7
1i5t5.duncan at cox.net
Tue Jul 17 03:15:44 BST 2012
Doug posted on Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:07:11 -0400 as excerpted:
> On 07/16/2012 07:06 PM, Duncan wrote:
>> I don't know enough about [kde on windows] to know what particular
>> apps are ported, but it doesn't appear that's what you're after
>> anyway. You appear to be after the kde environment, on MS, and
>> that's not available.
> OK, I guess I misunderstood what KDE on Windows was about. But--
> If I could have Find Files/Folders and Konqueror (or Dolphin) file
> manager, I would be a lot happier than I am now, and if KPatience were
> to run, I'd be even happier yet!
FWIW, konqueror in file-manager-mode uses dolphin's kpart, just with a
different wrapper around it, different menus, etc. So if it was one or
the other that had been ported to MS as a file manager, it would be
dolphin. If konqueror (well, its file management side) were ported,
dolphin would have to be available first/as-well.
As I said I don't know much about kde on MS Windows, but I /think/
dolphin /might/ be one of the ported apps. I believe kate is ported as
I've seen it mentioned somewhere, but that's the only one I'm fairly sure
of, with dolphin being a less sure but I /think/ I saw it mentioned too.
> Recently I've run into several situations where Windows just drives me
> 1. It puts files in odd places, and their file finder can't always find
> 2. If the file finder can find them, it won't put you in the directory
> where they are so you can a) unzip them or b) attach one onto an email.
> It thinks you always want to "open" the file.
> Anybody know if that's on the list of stuff that runs? And where can I
> find such a list?
Do note that depending on what version of dolphin/kde you're running, a
lot of the filefinder type functionality is based on nepomuk's semantic-
desktop indexing. Again, I don't know if that module's ported, so you
might find dolphin available but without the same file-finding
Meanwhile, as a former MS power user (back in the 90s I even beta-tested
IE4-5.5, and was in line at midnight for the MS Windows 98 release, but
MS crossed the line with the anti-feature of activation in eXPrivacy,
thus pushing me off the platform I'd used for a decade, so I have MS to
thank for finally forcing me to Linux! =:^), I can say with quite some
confidence that there's quite a lot of file-management alternatives, free-
to-download (tho not necessarily free-as-in-freedom, but it's possible
there's more of that these days as well, I've been off it for so long I
can't say), shareware, and reasonably low cost pay-up-front, all three.
It's also worth noting that there's a Unix-like environment available for
MS Windows, with a lot of native Unix/Linux tools ported to it, as well.
I've never used it since when I jumped, I left MS for good (at least
until they begin respecting the four software freedoms... not likely!),
but it may be worth investigating. I just have to remember the name...
google to the rescue! Cygwin:
That actually may be a dependency for kde on MS Windows, or may not,
since qt (the toolkit on which kde is based) runs on MS natively just as
it does on Linux, I don't know.
Which brings us back to the topic of kde on MS. While your question fits
the guidelines here AFAIK (so no worries there), there is actually a kde
on MS Windows (web) forum that's likely to be far better at answering
your questions, simply because it's dedicated to the topic. The
following link is courtesy of Anne Wilson, another regular here who has
posted it in reply to others a number of times. I just saved it to be
able to post it too if I got to it before she did. =:^)
Hmm... a bit of browsing of the kde site and I found this as well. I'd
read-up before asking on the forum, as I'm sure a lot of questions you'd
have are answered.
It appears there's more ported to MS Windows than I had believed,
including plasma, and there's instructions in the FAQ for switching the
desktop shell from MS Explorer to plasma if you want, but they do say
it's fairly limited on MS, no multiple virtual desktops, etc. And it's
noted IN BOLD that it's not considered stable yet, as well, but it can be
uninstalled (see the techbase link, then the FAQ) if you decide it's not
for you. Of course there's installation instructions as well...
Meanwhile, to your original question about copying everything to an
external drive... in general it should work. But there's a caveat. As I
said, I'm no authority on current MS Windows, but I do know that if you
change too much out from under it, it'll force you to reactivate. (That
was one of the reasons I left, after all. I had spent quite some money
on MS over the decade I was on them, never risking pirated software, etc,
yet they decided to treat their users as if they were pirates, forcing
them to activate, etc.)
It may be fine, but if you don't know how far you can go before
triggering reactivation, and what that entails, etc, I'd be sure to do
some research on it before doing the external drive thing, just in case.
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