Kaffeine and playing files from off the local network
1i5t5.duncan at cox.net
Sat May 28 01:31:15 BST 2011
John Woodhouse posted on Fri, 27 May 2011 15:42:24 -0700 as excerpted:
> It seems from nosing around that problems in this area are occurring
> with servers other than a nas as well.
> I have filed a bug via novell on this. I feel that kde has little
> credibility for anything other than toy use while this aspect is like
Had you kept the "toy use" claim general, I might have felt it justifiable
as there's arguably a lot of people that consider kde4 just that, fit for
toy use only, due to all sorts of both still unresolved kde4 issues and
now even SERIOUS REGRESSIONS (like the 4.6.3 konqueror double-requests-
regression, making konqueror AGAIN unsuitable for use by anyone serious
about conducting financial transactions using their browser -- this on top
of the encryption cert management issues just recently getting to a
tolerable, if not yet ideal, state, and the proxy issues that confounded
many users earlier, and that's just one set of serious bugs in one major
application!) in the middle of what's SUPPOSED to be a stable upgrade
But narrowing it down to one specific usage case, LAN access, weakens your
case to the point I really can't agree with the broad claim made on that
basis alone. Certainly, there are all sorts of "non-toy" users, depending
on kde for everyday use, that don't use the LAN functionality you're
complaining about (and I'm one of them), just as there are all sorts of
users that gave up on konqueor long ago and now use firefox or chromium/
chrome or opera or..., for which the konqueor bugs I just mentioned don't
make kde4 only fit for use as a toy.
While I do believe the case can be well argued that kde4 is only fit for
toy use in general, due to all sorts of bugs and regressions of which
we've discussed two sets of examples, I can't agree that any specific bug
alone makes kde4 only credible for use as a toy, because that's an
EXTREMELY broad claim based on a VERY SPECIFIC use case, one that not ALL
"serious" (if that's what we call the non-toy class) users are going to
Alternatively, had you specifically qualified the claim as "for my own
usage" or the like, then the "toy" class only usage claim could be valid,
since who's going to argue with someone about their own usage?
But as it is, by implication, you just called everyone that doesn't happen
to use KDE on a LAN a "toy class" user, and that's a **VERY** big (and
indeed quite offensive) claim to defend indeed! I obviously take a rather
big personal exception to THAT claim!
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