application starter, etc

[Felix Miata]

On 2011/08/07 22:13 (GMT) Duncan composed:

> Felix Miata composed:

>>  Which package should provide the panel?

> It sounds like the functional package is installed, since you're getting
> a desktop at all.  The panel, the desktop, that's all part of plasma (the
> binary is plasma-desktop, the packages would include plasma-runtime,

no such package

> plasma-workspace,

no such package

> plasma-apps,

no such package

> libplasmagenericshell, libplasmaclock,

Both installed.

> kdeplasma-addons,

Installing this would pull 77 runner, applet, wallpaper, dataengine groups, 
plus 7 more libs, & marble-common. Plus plasma-desktoptheme-default, which I 
installed, but didn't help.

>  etc, or possibly kdebase-runtime and kdebase-workspace,
> if mandriva is packaging the unsplit upstream kde tarballs).  However, it
> sounds like you may be missing an icons package, or more likely, the KDE
> SYstem COnfig CAche (sycoca) is screwed up and/or you have some vital
> environmental settings badly messed up.

> Does mandriva still use their own menu system as they used to, years
> ago?  If so, it could be related to that and nothing other distros would
> even know about.

I think the massive differences were dispensed with several years ago.

I decided to evaluate another approach, 'urpmi task-kde4-minimal 
--no-suggests', which wants to install the following 15 packages:
ark
dolphin
keditbookmarks
kfind
kmozillahelper
kwrite
libdolphinprivate4
libkbookmarkmodel_private4
libkerfuffle4
libkonq5
libpsync1
plasma-applet-folderview
plasma-desktoptheme-aya
plasma-wallpaper-timeoftheday
task-kde4-minimal

So I tried picking likely candidates for genuine deps, one by one, except 
with both plasma-desktoptheme-default and plasma-desktoptheme-rosa already 
installed, none except maybe folderview look like real deps. So I tried urpme 
plasma-desktoptheme-rosa, and it wants to remove kdebase4-workspace, 
plasma-desktoptheme-default, rosa-launcher & rosapanel. After seeing a lot of 
rosas mentioned in thread subjects on the Mandriva mailing list lately, and 
with 2011 still in RC, I suppose rosa may be the only available launcher, and 
broken. I think I'll just give up on this until after 2011 gets past RC.

FWIW, this is what *kdm*, *kde* & *plasma* are installed:
free-kde4-config-2011-0.85-mdv2011.0.noarch
kde4-nsplugins-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
kde4-splash-mdv-2010.1.0-3-mdv2011.0.i586
kde4-windeco-dekorator-0.5.1-6-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeadmin4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-color-schemes-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdeartwork4-emoticons-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdeartwork4-kscreensaver-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-sounds-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdeartwork4-styles-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdebase4-runtime-4.6.5-6-mdv2011.0.i586
kdebase4-workspace-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
kdebase4-workspace-googlegadgets-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
kdegraphics4-core-4.6.5-3-mdv2011.0.i586
kde-l10n-en_US-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdelibs4-core-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
kdepimlibs4-core-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdm-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
kdmfprintplugin-0.0-0.1050414.5-mdv2011.0.i586
libakonadi-kde4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
libkde3support4-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdecorations4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdecore5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdefakes5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdesu5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdeui5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdewebkit5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkwineffects1-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
liblockdev1-1.0.3-12-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasma3-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasma_applet_system_monitor4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasmaclock4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasmagenericshell4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasma-geolocation-interface4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
mandriva-kde4-config-common-2011-0.85-mdv2011.0.noarch
mandriva-kde-icons-1.0.4-13-mdv2011.0.noarch
mandriva-kde-translation-2011-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
plasma-applet-calculator-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-folderview-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-showdesktop-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-stackfolder-0.1.9-12-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-cpu-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-hdd-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-hwinfo-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-net-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-temperature-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-desktoptheme-default-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-desktoptheme-rosa-1.2.0-4-mdv2011.0.noarch
plasma-scriptengine-python-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
polkit-kde-agent-1-0.99.0-3-mdv2011.0.i586
python-kde4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
xsettings-kde-0.11-5-mdv2011.0.i586
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