Fixes was 4: the good, the bad and the broken

Draciron Smith draciron at gmail.com
Thu Apr 29 13:28:29 BST 2010


> Fedora and *buntu have online bug reporting tools. The *buntu one is
> hard to find without going through literally three pages of docs, here
> it is:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
>
> Debian might be a problem, I know.

Coolness. I'll have to bookmark that one.

> It looks to me that you are using Qt4 apps (KDE 4), Qt3 apps (Kwrite)
> and GTK apps (Firefox). That will be difficult on your system, no
> doubt. I hope that you don't open an OpenOffice window with all that
> going on!

Your kidding right? When I FINALLY get a stable desktop before I'm
done I'll have a mix and match that would bring any OS down except
Linux. KDE crashes and memory leaks have been wiping me out with KDE4
and it's frustrating.  Back when I worked at NASA I wore several hats
.I was a developer, Web developer, DBA, sysadmin, red tape getter
througher specialist LOL.  So I had a desktop devoted to just email
which had Kmail open, two Netscape windows (Firefox wasn't around yet)
Evolution, a few term windows to run various email related scripts to
gather up email from various sources, documents and broswer windows
related to emails I was reading. I had a documents window with
multiple copies of Abiword and Open Office open with various documents
I was working on plus multiple Kedit windows open. I had my DBA
desktop which had connections to the many databases I was maintaining,
web pages open with documentation, copies of the schemas up in kedit
windows, (I maintained DBs for several groups scattered across a few
depts using Oracle, MySQL, SQL Server, Sybase, Postgress and a few
other oddities.) connections to any GUI apps I might have for those
servers. On my development desktop I had IDEs, numerous Kedit windows,
multiple term windows into the source dirs I would hand compile from
frequently, a dozen or more browsers pointed at various documentaiton
dealing with the languages and code I was working on. On my web
development window essentially the same thing just web specific
windows. On my general desktop I had my music player, GP web browsing
windows, kedit windows open. I also burned from the command line back
then so had my term windows for that, general local computer health
such as a term window running top, ect.   My server desktop was term
windows with connections to all the servers I was maintaining and
hearbeat apps alerting me if a server went down. On my graphics
desktop I had things like DIA, Gimp and such open often in the middle
of creating or editing images for various projects or presentaiotons
or web page icons. I think you get the idea. I would run all this
months at a time. Ran  it until either a security patch was issued for
the kernel or the power was shut down to the building and never had a
problem except Firefox mem leaks and Evolution mem leaks but if I just
periodically restarted those apps before I completely ran out of
memory problem solved.

I only run about 4 desktops nowdays. One usually devoted to editing
music, one with a bit of DB and back end web scripting plus 2 GP
desktops which I typically have hundreds of firefox tabs scattered
across a dozen Firefox windows, Audacity or similar. If I'm writing I
devote an entire desktop it with as many as 60 kedit windows plus
multiple Abiword and Open office windows. I'll have K3b often open,
backup software running in the background  IM, various kedit windows
opened to GP tasks, term windows usually 3 or 4 per on each desktop,
I've long mixed QT, GTK and X11 apps without problem. One of the
reasons I love Linux is that I can have so much going and leave it all
open for months at a time. It means more time doing stuff. Think about
it, instead of spending half my life watching various apps open I just
click over to the necessary desktop and in seconds long before i could
even locate the app much less open it I'm working. The time savings is
like added 2 or 3 weeks to every year. That's 2 or 3 weeks of time
100s of hours I can devote to my writing, music, work, family
recreation or whatever I want. Countless hours I don't stare at an
hourglass while an app FINALLY opens.    Been doing this since about
98 and never had a major problem until KDE4.

I couldn't get a 1/10th of that opened on a windoze box or Mac without
cratering the OS and I surely could not have it running for several
months at a time. I recently finally upgraded this machine because it
was getting impossible to find security updates for FC 7.  I hadn't
rebooted in over 8 months and had literally hundreds of apps that'd
been open for months. That was when I moved to FC 12 and thus KDE 4
and what a shock that was LOL. I once got 5 years out of a RH 9
installation. That's my record. I went at one point 16 months between
reboots. I love that stability. Please don't tell me KDE doesn't play
well with mixing GTK and QT and others. Some of my favorite apps have
no KDE equiv. Audacity, Gimp and Gthumb for example. There is no QT
apps that are even close to either in functionality or UI. I can give
up using apps like Grip and Gparted but not Audacity, Gimp and Gthumb.
 It would be like giving up K3b t use Gcombust or something like that.
I think I'd rather go back to command line burning than give up K3b.

> Please file bugs at Ubuntu on this. I don't use of know Jack, so I
> cannot help, but this list might help you:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-Studio-devel
>

Thanks on the list, though they don't do KDE.. Just Gnome with studio.
However I might be able to roll my own studio distro out of it. Saw an
article in Linux journal that looked interesting about roll your own
Ubuntu utility.
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