Is there a howto on essentials.

Billie Erin Walsh bilwalsh at
Thu Nov 19 15:09:21 GMT 2009

Rick Miles wrote:
> On Thursday 19 November 2009 03:19:25 pm RW wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:11:20 -0600
>> Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at> wrote:
>>> Drac, don't take any of this personal.
>> I imagine he wont since personal isn't an adverb.
>>> It's kind of a cumulative
>>> assessment of what I, as a relative newbie, see on many lists and
>>> threads.
>> Hmm, go on, I'm intrigued.
>>> Most of the people I see grousing the most are those that have been
>>> around the longest. They have gotten "set" in their ways.
>> I doubt that could be any more patronising without the use of
>> "old-timer".
>>> KDE4 is,
>>> from my limited time with KDE3, a major change. Some things from
>>> before work and many won't because of the fundamental change behind
>>> them.
>> Does it not occur to you that long term users of KDE3 were best placed
>> to understand KDE3's strengths and weaknesses. They're also more
>> likely to be full-time KDE users.
>>> Some things from
>>> before work and many won't because of the fundamental change behind
>>> them. As I understand it it's the foundation that KDE stands on that
>>> made the change completely necessary.
>> Nonsense, very little was mandated by qt4.
>>> I think the biggest problem is that no one wants change.
>> No, many of us wanted change, there's huge scope for improvement in
>> KDE3, we just wanted change that enhanced productivity. I doubt many
>> people sat around thinking: this is far too fast and useful, I want
>> wobbly windows, cubes and enough bloat and poor ergonomics  to slow me
>> down to a more leisurely pace.
>> ___________________________________________________
> Thanks RW, 
> I'm over the adventure and excitment. I like the eyecandy and wobbles allot but I 
> want my work stations for work not testbeds.  I was around at the transition from 
> qt2 to qt3. I don't remember much in the way of problems although the base kde was 
> much smaller, less complex, I was new to Linux and, consequently, evrything was a 
> problem. I probably came close to world records for Suse and Mandrake re-installs 
> until I gave up on yast, system V inits and learned to stop doing everything as 
> root, but I alway prefered kde, even back then and it always seemed to be puching 
> the envelope release by release. That's why I liked it and that's why I still do. 
> Maybe I just have less time these days to fiddle around configuring things
> Perhaps young Bill has plenty of time on his hands and finds the fun of upgarding 
> is in the reconfiguring and the more the merrier.

I wasn't going to reply but...............................

What do you mean by "wobbly windows" and "cubes". I don't have any 
wobbly anything, except me, and have no idea what a cube is.

I have virtually no issues with upgrades. [ Almost never have any issues 
with clean installs either. ]  This last upgrade was pretty much 
painless. I started the upgrade and went to bed. It took about ten or 
fifteen minutes the next morning to finalize it. No configuration issues 
at all. The only issue I had with the upgrade to 9.04 was sound and once 
I got into it the fix was relatively simple.

Everything works and my poor old computer is just as fast as it ever 
was. Might even be faster. I don't keep much track of that sort of thing.

I sit here every day and wonder why so many people have issues with 
stuff that just works.

Treat all stressful situations like a dog does.
If you can't eat it or play with it, 
just pee on it and walk away

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