Kbear: Fish protocol seems not to work

[Nigel Henry]

On Tuesday 07 February 2006 15:36, Justin Denick wrote:
> On 2/6/06, SOTL <sotl155360 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > On Monday 30 January 2006 02:35 pm, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > > I've been trying to help someone out with this problem, and not using
> >
> > Kbear
> >
> > > installed it on one of my Debian distro's. I have no problems using
> > > Fish with Konqueror in both directions from my 2 machines. Kbear works
> > > ok
> >
> > using
> >
> > > the FTP protocol. I removed the key on the Debian machine
> > > from. /home/user_name/.ssh/known_hosts. Then started Kbear. Entered the
> > > IPaddress of the other machine, selected "Fish" as protocol, entered
> >
> > user
> >
> > > name, and password, and for it to access /home/user directory. Asking
> > > it
> >
> > to
> >
> > > connect brings up the request panel regarding the key. "Do you want to
> > > continue?" "Yes". Kbear then creates a new key to replace the one I had
> > > deleted for accessing this IPaddress. This is as far as it gets. It
> > > just hangs then, and doesn't connect to the address.
> > >
> > > Anyone any suggestions?
>
> Make sure the perms on both the .ssh directory and the .know_hosts file are
> accurate.
> Look at the /var/auth.log or /var/ssh.log to validate any decrepancies you
> may find.

Hi Justin. The only file I have is /home/user_name/.ssh/known_hosts . The 
others don't exist. But? If Konqueror works with the fish protocol ok, there 
logically should be no reason why Kbear should not work using the fish 
protocol, unless it's broken in Kbear. As I've previously said. It appears to 
partially work, as, if I remove the RSA key 
in /home/user_name/.ssh/known_hosts, Kbear recreates it, so it logically must 
be partially working.

I don't use Kbear, but am merely trying to help SOTL with this problem. 
Konqueror works fine for me with fish, and I normally use Gftp for 
transferring files between my machines. But even Gftp has the options to use 
other protocols, and I find they don't work. I suppose basically, both Gftp, 
and Kbear are ftp clients, and work fine with that protocol. Nigel.
>
> > > There used to be a facility for contacting the authors of individual
> >
> > apps
> >
> > > at kde.org, but this seems to have disappeared. But as the site is
> > > quite extensive, perhaps I just can't find it. (Bit like finding your
> > > way
> >
> > round
> >
> > > the Sun Microsystems site).
> > >
> > > In anticipation. Nigel.
> > > ___________________________________________________
> >
> > Hi Nigel and ALL
> >
> > Thanks for the replay and information.
> >
> > I am still working on this so this is a preliminary response.
> >
> > First, I have almost established which versions of Linux I want on my 3
> > pluggable HDs. That in itself is not easy. It was all a lot simpler
> > before Mandrake became Mandriva and started charging for downloads. Many
> > on the Mandriva list are most unhappy with this. And! That is not to
> > mention that now distributions only come out once a year instead of every
> > 6 months as previous. That should not effect this issue but it does.
> >
> > I over the last couple of weeks I have installed 5 or 6 differrent
> > distributions. I have tested Kbear on several I forget exactly how
> > many.  On
> > one or two occasions I installed a distribution and immediately tried to
> > access the new computer from another and was unable to do so. On both
> > occasions I could then access the other computer using Konqueror and
> > fish.
>
> If these computers are on the same subnet why not just use fish:// It keeps
> a persistent connection. Additionally you can make a pseudo file system of
> the contents of your remote machine.
> Alternatively, you could compile your kernel to supprot NFS. This would
> allow you to mount a share on the remote machine.
> Either way just know that Kbear is not your only option. This is *nix :-)
>
> In order to continue with this I am going to have to get another computer
>
> > involved with either SuSE, Fedora, or Debian installed in it as the issue
> > may
> > go back to several other issues I have had with Mandrake. Once I was
> > having
> > immense amount of problems with Midnight Commander not working. This went
> > on
> > for months. Finally fixed the problem when I upgraded. It seems that at
> > the
> > time Mandrake could be ordered as either DVD or CD separate - ie not part
> > of
> > the box set. I always ordered the DVDs then, not now. The DVDs would
> > install
> > in the laptop with out issue. Not so the CDs which I had used for one
> > update.
> > The CD simply produced random errors in the laptop. In my desktop both
> > worked
> > fine but not in the laptop.
>
> I'm not really following you here... The DVD installed the OS onto a
> laptop. But CD's could not be used to update the packages? If you are going
> to use a different media to update the packages you must first tell urpmi
> about it. And double check the "/etc/urpmi.something"
> to make sure it is going to get it's sources from the right spot and that
> the desired spot is compatible with the curerent installation.
>
> The second major issue is when I attempt to do on line updates if I update
>
> > any
> > portion of KDE then there is a 90+% proability that I will have to
> > reinstall
> > the system. Thus one can not do any updates as many things that do not
> > appear
> > to be part of KDE are.
>
> Why?
>
> Third a few weeks back I tried to install the ODBC and JDBC connectors
>
> > required for connection to MySQL and other database. I managed to install
> > them in the desktop with no problem if one over looks the 2 weeks it took
> > to
> > figure out what to get and where. Anyway it was late at night, I was
> > tired,
> > and I had been working on the computer for some 12 hours so I went home
> > and
> > did not upgrade the laptop. Big mistake! When I got back to the laptop 3
> > days
> > later the RP Ms had been update on the Mandriva download site. I
> > installed.
> > Down the system went. I then reinstalled the full complete system.
> >
> > Now the above issues do not appear to have anything to do with Kbear.
> > BUT! Who
> > would have thought that with the MC issue? No one. That is why I need a
> > third
> > computer in this loop. One with a trusted operating system in it as I
> > have noted some strange and better responses with Konqueror and fish in
> > the latest
> > distributions I have installed.
>
> By trusty Operating System, I am selfishly hoping you will choose Gentoo.
> But let's not start a Gentoo v. Debian flaming... It's too earlly for that
> and this is a KDE list.
> But the issue, being as global as you describe it probably has to deal with
> a shared library or something more severe than Kbear. But try to keep it
> simple. OBDC has worked for a long time and so has Kbear and MC. Try gettin
> them all to work before applying a ton of updates. Updates are only useful
> if they will offer you a more secure environment or neccesary
> functionality. As such, they should only be applied under those
> circumstances.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> > SOTL
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