(Konqueror and ISP's webrowsers support) and (KMail support and ISP's.)

[Howard Coles Jr.]

On Saturday 24 December 2005 12:44, JACKIE AINSWORTH wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Linux newbies here again.
> (Please signpost us elsewhere if this is not a correct forum or link
> to ask these questions. We don't know.)
>
> We are experiencing since 6th Dec 05, continuing difficulties configuring
> KMail. (We got lot of helpful advice from kde at mail.kde.org and individual
> subscribers)
>
> We are sending this  email from this recently registered free
> googlemail.com account having previously used our ISP's
> btopenworld.com {yahoo mail interface) email facility until the
> 'REPLY' and 'FORWARD' buttons ceased to work on it from Konq., {and
> with KMail; only the 'RECEIVE' function.] ( Cc to our own ISP email
> address:{"belt & braces"] )
>
> This  new googlemail.com account explains that "Your webrowser may not
> be fully supported"  - "Click here to learn more", on doing so we find
>  suggested alternative browsers with free webrowser download offers
> for MS, Mac & 'LINUX. Mozilla'.  [Unlike our ISP: btopenworld which
> suggested exclusively MS webrowsers]
>
> For us newbies: What does it mean "YOUR WEBROWSER MAY NOT BE FULLY
> SUPPORTED" ?
> 1) Who or what is partially supported?  Who or what only provides
> partial support?
> 2) Why would only partial support be offered?
> 3) Why would a webrowser {like KONQ} only be designed to be partially
> supportable or not supportable at all?
> 4) What is the reason for someone suggesting alternatively listed
> webrowsers?
>
> KMail Configuration for our new googlemail.com account:-
> 5) Does Kmail require support in the way that a webrowser requires support?
> (We are currently finding that we cannot access our googlemail.com
> account independently from loggin in to our 'webrowsers functionality
> problematic' ISP: btopenworld{yahoo webmail interface).  This
> frustrates our use of googlemail. independently from our ISP!  Our
> googlemail account appears currently fully functional from Konq, but
> we cannot access our googlemail account at all from KMail which pops
> up with a message: " mail.google.com is unknown host"   (We suspect
> that many of our initial Kmail configuration problems stem from the
> "Webrowser Support" issues asked about points 1 to 4. ? )
> Hope we are explaining so you can understand?

I hope you understand I'm not being smart here, but, you need to go to GMAIL's 
help and read how to configure your pop3.  If you follow their directions, 
comparing setting for setting, you'll find that every pop3 mail client is in 
essence the same as POP3 is a standard.  So, when GMAIL tells outlook express 
users to plug "pop.gmail.com" in the pop3 server setting, it will be the same 
for KMail, Thunderbird, Evolution, outlook virus express, or whatever else 
you're using.  You may need to look around on the different tabs and places 
in KMail to find all the places where to plug them in, but they are all 
generally named the same.

Remember, however, in Konqueror you have "ID's" where you define who you are, 
and then Accounts which represents the email account on the server you're 
trying to pull from.  You'll need an ID that defines your account's name, and 
the email address and the name you want to be know by on that account, and 
then you need an Account so that KMail knows where to get the mail, the login 
ID, login method (security etc.) and where to put the mail (folder or inbox). 
etc.

Now, as far as the browser support goes, what that means is that they either:
1.  Do not support from a call in perspective any browser but Windoze IE.
2.  They use extensions in their HTML code that only work with IE

Either way its not Konqueror's fault, its the coders of the web page.  Another 
aspect of this is that you may not have a plugin that the page wants to use 
for konqueror.  This again, may be due to the coders using a product which 
only has plugins for IE, or you have not downloaded and installed the plugin.


-- 

See Ya'
Howard Coles Jr.
John 3:16!

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