WOW. . .those screenshots of 3.1Alpha are fantastic

[Mary Stamper]

Points well taken.......however, it seems to me that you have actually described the gap that I've
been talking about. The KDE developers are happily doing their thing in their own little world
(which is probably a pretty cool world to be in....I'm hoping to get some time eventually to join
in) and there's nothing inherently wrong with that..........but...........
when those of us that think we have here a viable option to windows that deserves more recognition
and perhaps even some funding, we somehow have to sell the idea to those in power.....and that's
where the priorities start to conflict..........you see, it's as if we are chopping away at a huge
mountain each from different sides,some of us hoping to meet in the middle, others not caring
whether we meet at all........

And, FYI, I'm also a Macintosh fan, because I think that the gui itself is far more user-friendly
than M$ and in general a superior product in terms of ease of use. Yet it's use is isolated to a
small, marginal group of loyal users. 

I feel very sad that that could easily (and probably will) happen to us KDE/unix users. I firmly
believe that we have a desktop that is already far superior to windows, and offers some things
that are superior to the mac as well (at least for my taste).

And I don't necessary want to blow M$ off the face of the earth......that isn't realistic or even
productive.......I just want people to see that they DO have more choices......

Forgive me if I sound like I'm ignoring you....I am not.......this is actually a complex problem,
and perhaps actually belongs somewhere else. I'll look into some other options to discuss these
issues.

Sorry if I offended you.......I do appreciate your work......

 
--- Benjamin Reed <ranger at befunk.com> wrote:
> Mary Stamper [mstamper77 at yahoo.com] wrote:
> > It's a weakness if you are happy just being little KDE with your little unix desktop in your
> > little home geek-abode. But if you really want to seriously challenge M$ where it will hurt,
> > you've got to go after the big companies that actually use the computer to get work done. And
> the
> > priorities may be entirely different. Perhaps deep down, that isn't what the existing users
> and
> > perveyors of KDE REALLY want...........
> 
> There are as many reasons for developing KDE as there are people developing it.
> However, I'm betting that for many of the people coding on KDE, they care not one
> bit whether they "challenge M$" or not.
> 
> You keep saying "if you really want to seriously challenge M$", and most of the
> responses have been the equivalent of "we don't", but you don't notice it and
> barrel on ahead, arguing that everyone should stop whatever they're doing and
> attack Redmond.
> 
> I don't do things to piss off microsoft, I do things to make things easier for me,
> and because I enjoy working on something other people use.  Period.
> 
> Just because *you* want KDE to destroy Microsoft doesn't mean anyone else wants
> it.  Sure, it's one of those things I've thought about in the context of "wouldn't
> it be nice?", but that doesn't mean it's a priority.  I think it'd be great if MS
> went away, but that has nothing to do with my reasons for using KDE, and having
> not booted Windows for anything other than NeverWinter nights in the last 6
> months, I can't imagine why I should care about Microsoft at all.  I can get along
> just fine without them.
> 
> I use KDE because it's comfortable for my day-to-day tasks, and because I think
> it is a pretty elegant design.  Neither of those things have anything to do with
> Microsoft.  In fact, many of the people I know that run UNIX don't think about
> MS at all, other than the increasingly frequent annoyance of getting virus
> e-mails from people unknowingly sending crap from their swiss-cheese legacy
> OSes.  (grin)
> 
> Perhaps you should stop worrying about what other people think, and start
> worrying about what *you* want.  If you want to destroy Microsoft, get out there
> and make it happen, but don't assume it's every KDE developer's personal agenda
> to have anything to do with an OS they don't even use anymore.
> 
> -- 
> Benjamin Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick (ranger at befunk.com) http://ranger.befunk.com/
> "Pity."  "What?"  "Why do girls like you always have a boyfriend?"
> "Because I have acute nymphomania and my own brewery."
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