kopete website

Sat Nov 8 09:24:25 UTC 2014

And also screenshots (maybe historical too!) from kopete svn 
http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/kopete/pics/ should go to 
wiki page.

On Saturday 08 November 2014 10:22:29 Pali Rohár wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I looked into svn
> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/kopete/ again and
> checked if we have everything needed. And I think that those
> files are not backed up:
> 
> Directory http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/kopete/files/:
> KopetePluginDevelopment.odp
> kopete_{en,es}.ogg
> 
> Directory
> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/kopete/protocol/: all
> files
> 
> Other (relevant) files from top level directory should go
> probably to wiki. Can you check if above files are somewhere
> or not?
> 
> On Friday 31 October 2014 16:14:17 Jeremy Whiting wrote:
> > Pali,
> > 
> > The emoticons change and the faqs are in kopete master
> > branch. Was there anything else from the website that we
> > needed to add to kopete docs or kopete's git repo before
> > making kopete.kde.org redirect to the userbase page ?
> > 
> > BR,
> > Jeremy
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Jeremy Whiting
> 
> <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
> > > Pali,
> > > 
> > > The kopetemessage.xsd and oscarversions.xml are on
> > > autoconfig.kde.org now. Both under a kopete subfolder. In
> > > the future if those need to change you can change them by
> > > cloning kde:websites/autoconfig-kde-org and updating them
> > > in that git repo. I've asked ben to make apache rewrites
> > > from the old urls to the new ones, and redirects for the
> > > sound files are already in place which redirect to
> > > userbase copies of those .ogg files.
> > > 
> > > Step 3 is awaiting review I guess. Then we can do the
> > > other two steps.
> > > 
> > > thanks,
> > > Jeremy
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Jeremy Whiting
> 
> <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
> > >> Pali,
> > >> 
> > >> Here's my plan,
> > >> 
> > >> 1. I'll coordinate with ben about placing the sound
> > >> files, and these two kopetemessage.xsd and
> > >> oscarversions.xml on either files.kde.org or
> > >> download.kde.org.
> > >> 2. Then I'll ask sysadmin to make apache rewrites from
> > >> the old urls to the new ones.
> > >> 3. Then I'll add the faqs from the website to the
> > >> .docbook faq section in kopete's sources.
> > >> 4. Then ask sysadmin to make kopete.kde.org an apache
> > >> rewrite to the userbase page.
> > >> 5. Then finally remove kopete content from svn.
> > >> 
> > >> Sound like a good plan? Did I miss any steps?
> > >> 
> > >> BR,
> > >> Jeremy
> > >> 
> > >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Ben Cooksley
> 
> <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Pali Rohár
> 
> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Hello,
> > >>> 
> > >>> Hi Pali,
> > >>> 
> > >>>> first one important thing:
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> kopete icq/aim protocol is downloading this file at
> > >>>> kopete startup: http://kopete.kde.org/oscarversions.xml
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> That file contains version information needed for icq
> > >>>> client to successfully authenticate with icq server.
> > >>>> All these data are also in icq source code. But in
> > >>>> past those data was changed and downloading data from
> > >>>> kopete.kde.org cause that older kopete versions was
> > >>>> able to connect again. Data from website override
> > >>>> hardcoded data in kopete source code.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> And I updated data from website to icq source code only
> > >>>> for v4.14 release. So if you cut down that url all
> > >>>> kopete versions before v4.14 stop working.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> So after updating kopete.kde.org website, please make
> > >>>> sure that above url will still work and please write me
> > >>>> how to change that file in future (so when something
> > >>>> will be broken I can update it).
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> File is downloaded with KIO::get(url) so if you are
> > >>>> going to do some magic (redirect/etc) please make sure
> > >>>> that it will not be broken.
> > >>> 
> > >>> KIO is intelligent enough to handle redirects - we
> > >>> enabled mandatory SSL for kopete.kde.org a while back,
> > >>> and based on your commentary here the file is still
> > >>> being retrieved without problems.
> > >>> 
> > >>>> In kopete source code I see reference to another file:
> > >>>> http://kopete.kde.org/files/kopetemessage.xsd
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> But I do not have idea how that file is used.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Likely used to validate the format of the XML data which
> > >>> Kopete uses at some point. Perhaps this is how it stores
> > >>> conversations on disk?
> > >>> 
> > >>>> Next, I did nothing with docbook. Basically I do not
> > >>>> have time for updating all those user guide books, etc
> > >>>> and also I'm not very interesting in writing such
> > >>>> text.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Ben
> > >>> 
> > >>>> On Wednesday 15 October 2014 00:09:13 Jeremy Whiting
> 
> wrote:
> > >>>>> Pali,
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Have you ever done anything with the kopete docbook ?
> > >>>>> If so would you mind adding the faqs from
> > >>>>> https://kopete.kde.org/faq.php to it? I've added links
> > >>>>> to the userbase page pointing to the docbook copy of
> > >>>>> the pipes and chat style guides on
> > >>>>> https://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdenetwork/kopete/
> > >>>>> ch atwind owstyleguide.html so those should be taken
> > >>>>> care of. I also added a link to KDETalk below those
> > >>>>> on userbase. I'll ask about where to put the sound
> > >>>>> files for the pronunciation of kopete in english and
> > >>>>> spanish from the kopete.kde.org site.
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> thanks,
> > >>>>> Jeremy
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Jeremy Whiting
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
> > >>>>> > Exactly.
> > >>>>> > 
> > >>>>> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Pali Rohár
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> >> Sounds good. Also editing userbase wiki page should
> > >>>>> >> be simpler then editing something in svn...
> > >>>>> >> 
> > >>>>> >> On Tuesday 14 October 2014 23:31:56 Jeremy Whiting
> 
> wrote:
> > >>>>> >>> Pali,
> > >>>>> >>> 
> > >>>>> >>> Thanks for the information on what's useful in the
> > >>>>> >>> existing site. I can do like we did for
> > >>>>> >>> dolphin.kde.org. I'll first move the important
> > >>>>> >>> content from those three pages you pointed out
> > >>>>> >>> into userbase, then ask kopete.kde.org to be a
> > >>>>> >>> rewrite to userbase kopete page. then remove this
> > >>>>> >>> old content from svn completely. Does that sound
> > >>>>> >>> like a good idea? I especially like the idea of
> > >>>>> >>> userbase because the content can be easily
> > >>>>> >>> translated by end-user's into their own language.
> > >>>>> >>> 
> > >>>>> >>> BR,
> > >>>>> >>> Jeremy
> > >>>>> >>> 
> > >>>>> >>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Pali Rohár
> > >>>>> >> 
> > >>>>> >> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> >>> > On Tuesday 14 October 2014 23:07:04 you wrote:
> > >>>>> >>> >> Pali,
> > >>>>> >>> >> 
> > >>>>> >>> >> Long time no see. How's it going? I see you've
> > >>>>> >>> >> been fixing bugs and such in kopete lately and
> > >>>>> >>> >> thought I'd shoot you an e-mail. I've been
> > >>>>> >>> >> cleaning up svn websites folder migrating sites
> > >>>>> >>> >> to git repos and such and kopete is one of the
> > >>>>> >>> >> remaining few sites there.
> > >>>>> >>> >> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/ and it's
> > >>>>> >>> >> also terribly out of date. I wondered which of
> > >>>>> >>> >> these options you'd prefer:
> > >>>>> >>> >> 
> > >>>>> >>> >> 1. Close kopete.kde.org completely (user's can
> > >>>>> >>> >> still find information about it from the
> > >>>>> >>> >> userbase and www.kde.org application pages) 2.
> > >>>>> >>> >> Keep kopete.kde.org and redirect it to the
> > >>>>> >>> >> kopete userbase page or www.kde.org kopete
> > >>>>> >>> >> application page.
> > >>>>> >>> >> 3. Migrate kopete web content to git and update
> > >>>>> >>> >> it to reflect kopete current status etc.
> > >>>>> >>> >> 
> > >>>>> >>> >> I can help with any of these but wanted to ask
> > >>>>> >>> >> which you prefer. I wont be updating the site
> > >>>>> >>> >> content itself in anyway, you can do that or
> > >>>>> >>> >> find someone else to do it, but I can do the
> > >>>>> >>> >> migration. Let me know what you think.
> > >>>>> >>> >> 
> > >>>>> >>> >> BR,
> > >>>>> >>> >> Jeremy
> > >>>>> >>> > 
> > >>>>> >>> > Hello,
> > >>>>> >>> > 
> > >>>>> >>> > I have never touched kopete website because I
> > >>>>> >>> > did not know how and also I did not have time
> > >>>>> >>> > for it. Even I did not know what website is in
> > >>>>> >>> > svn...
> > >>>>> >>> > 
> > >>>>> >>> > In last years I fixed lot of bugs in kopete and
> > >>>>> >>> > implemented some new options. You can see in
> > >>>>> >>> > kopete git that I regularly pushing changes. But
> > >>>>> >>> > I really do not have time for maintaining web
> > >>>>> >>> > site or something similar.
> > >>>>> >>> > 
> > >>>>> >>> > So I think the best would be to keep
> > >>>>> >>> > kopete.kde.org DNS record and redirect webpage
> > >>>>> >>> > to userbase.
> > >>>>> >>> > 
> > >>>>> >>> > I think there are 3 important things on
> > >>>>> >>> > kopete.kde.org webpage:
> > >>>>> >>> > 
> > >>>>> >>> > 1) Pipes Plugin guide:
> > >>>>> >>> > https://kopete.kde.org/pipesimplementationguide/
> > >>>>> >>> > in dex.ht ml
> > >>>>> >>> > 
> > >>>>> >>> > 2) Chat window style guide:
> > >>>>> >>> > https://kopete.kde.org/chatwindowstyleguide/inde
> > >>>>> >>> > x. html
> > >>>>> >>> > 
> > >>>>> >>> > 3) Info about existence of KDE XMPP server:
> > >>>>> >>> > https://kdetalk.net/
> > >>>>> >>> > 
> > >>>>> >>> > I do not know if these two guides are somewhere
> > >>>>> >>> > else so this could be backup (or link from
> > >>>>> >>> > userbase?).
> > >>>>> >>> > 
> > >>>>> >>> > --
> > >>>>> >>> > Pali Rohár
> > >>>>> >>> > pali.rohar at gmail.com
> > >>>>> >> 
> > >>>>> >> --
> > >>>>> >> Pali Rohár
> > >>>>> >> pali.rohar at gmail.com
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Pali Rohár
> > >>>> pali.rohar at gmail.com
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar at gmail.com
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