kopete website

Sat Nov 8 15:50:34 UTC 2014

Pali,

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Pali Rohár <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I looked into svn http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/kopete/
> again and checked if we have everything needed. And I think that
> those files are not backed up:
>
> Directory http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/kopete/files/:
> KopetePluginDevelopment.odp
> kopete_{en,es}.ogg

Ok, the sound files are backed up and are on userbase.kde.org and
there are redirects from their kopete.kde.org/files/ locations to the
userbase urls. As far as the .odp file isn't it's content in the
docbook now ? Do we need the .odp file for something ?

>
> Directory http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/kopete/protocol/:
> all files

Ok, I see, I'll take a look, aren't these in the docbook now in the
protocol section?

>
> Other (relevant) files from top level directory should go
> probably to wiki. Can you check if above files are somewhere or
> not?

Yep, I'll take a look. Thanks for checking.

thanks,
Jeremy

>
> On Friday 31 October 2014 16:14:17 Jeremy Whiting wrote:
>> Pali,
>>
>> The emoticons change and the faqs are in kopete master branch.
>> Was there anything else from the website that we needed to
>> add to kopete docs or kopete's git repo before making
>> kopete.kde.org redirect to the userbase page ?
>>
>> BR,
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Jeremy Whiting
> <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
>> > Pali,
>> >
>> > The kopetemessage.xsd and oscarversions.xml are on
>> > autoconfig.kde.org now. Both under a kopete subfolder. In
>> > the future if those need to change you can change them by
>> > cloning kde:websites/autoconfig-kde-org and updating them
>> > in that git repo. I've asked ben to make apache rewrites
>> > from the old urls to the new ones, and redirects for the
>> > sound files are already in place which redirect to userbase
>> > copies of those .ogg files.
>> >
>> > Step 3 is awaiting review I guess. Then we can do the other
>> > two steps.
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> > Jeremy
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Jeremy Whiting
> <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
>> >> Pali,
>> >>
>> >> Here's my plan,
>> >>
>> >> 1. I'll coordinate with ben about placing the sound files,
>> >> and these two kopetemessage.xsd and oscarversions.xml on
>> >> either files.kde.org or download.kde.org.
>> >> 2. Then I'll ask sysadmin to make apache rewrites from the
>> >> old urls to the new ones.
>> >> 3. Then I'll add the faqs from the website to the .docbook
>> >> faq section in kopete's sources.
>> >> 4. Then ask sysadmin to make kopete.kde.org an apache
>> >> rewrite to the userbase page.
>> >> 5. Then finally remove kopete content from svn.
>> >>
>> >> Sound like a good plan? Did I miss any steps?
>> >>
>> >> BR,
>> >> Jeremy
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Ben Cooksley
> <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
>> >>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Pali Rohár
> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Pali,
>> >>>
>> >>>> first one important thing:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> kopete icq/aim protocol is downloading this file at
>> >>>> kopete startup: http://kopete.kde.org/oscarversions.xml
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That file contains version information needed for icq
>> >>>> client to successfully authenticate with icq server. All
>> >>>> these data are also in icq source code. But in past
>> >>>> those data was changed and downloading data from
>> >>>> kopete.kde.org cause that older kopete versions was able
>> >>>> to connect again. Data from website override hardcoded
>> >>>> data in kopete source code.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And I updated data from website to icq source code only
>> >>>> for v4.14 release. So if you cut down that url all
>> >>>> kopete versions before v4.14 stop working.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So after updating kopete.kde.org website, please make
>> >>>> sure that above url will still work and please write me
>> >>>> how to change that file in future (so when something
>> >>>> will be broken I can update it).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> File is downloaded with KIO::get(url) so if you are going
>> >>>> to do some magic (redirect/etc) please make sure that it
>> >>>> will not be broken.
>> >>>
>> >>> KIO is intelligent enough to handle redirects - we enabled
>> >>> mandatory SSL for kopete.kde.org a while back, and based
>> >>> on your commentary here the file is still being retrieved
>> >>> without problems.
>> >>>
>> >>>> In kopete source code I see reference to another file:
>> >>>> http://kopete.kde.org/files/kopetemessage.xsd
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But I do not have idea how that file is used.
>> >>>
>> >>> Likely used to validate the format of the XML data which
>> >>> Kopete uses at some point. Perhaps this is how it stores
>> >>> conversations on disk?
>> >>>
>> >>>> Next, I did nothing with docbook. Basically I do not have
>> >>>> time for updating all those user guide books, etc and
>> >>>> also I'm not very interesting in writing such text.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Ben
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Wednesday 15 October 2014 00:09:13 Jeremy Whiting
> wrote:
>> >>>>> Pali,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Have you ever done anything with the kopete docbook ? If
>> >>>>> so would you mind adding the faqs from
>> >>>>> https://kopete.kde.org/faq.php to it? I've added links
>> >>>>> to the userbase page pointing to the docbook copy of
>> >>>>> the pipes and chat style guides on
>> >>>>> https://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdenetwork/kopete/ch
>> >>>>> atwind owstyleguide.html so those should be taken care
>> >>>>> of. I also added a link to KDETalk below those on
>> >>>>> userbase. I'll ask about where to put the sound files
>> >>>>> for the pronunciation of kopete in english and spanish
>> >>>>> from the kopete.kde.org site.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> thanks,
>> >>>>> Jeremy
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Jeremy Whiting
>> >>>>
>> >>>> <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
>> >>>>> > Exactly.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Pali Rohár
>> >>>>
>> >>>> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> Sounds good. Also editing userbase wiki page should
>> >>>>> >> be simpler then editing something in svn...
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> On Tuesday 14 October 2014 23:31:56 Jeremy Whiting
> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>> Pali,
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>> Thanks for the information on what's useful in the
>> >>>>> >>> existing site. I can do like we did for
>> >>>>> >>> dolphin.kde.org. I'll first move the important
>> >>>>> >>> content from those three pages you pointed out into
>> >>>>> >>> userbase, then ask kopete.kde.org to be a rewrite
>> >>>>> >>> to userbase kopete page. then remove this old
>> >>>>> >>> content from svn completely. Does that sound like a
>> >>>>> >>> good idea? I especially like the idea of userbase
>> >>>>> >>> because the content can be easily translated by
>> >>>>> >>> end-user's into their own language.
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>> BR,
>> >>>>> >>> Jeremy
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Pali Rohár
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>> > On Tuesday 14 October 2014 23:07:04 you wrote:
>> >>>>> >>> >> Pali,
>> >>>>> >>> >>
>> >>>>> >>> >> Long time no see. How's it going? I see you've
>> >>>>> >>> >> been fixing bugs and such in kopete lately and
>> >>>>> >>> >> thought I'd shoot you an e-mail. I've been
>> >>>>> >>> >> cleaning up svn websites folder migrating sites
>> >>>>> >>> >> to git repos and such and kopete is one of the
>> >>>>> >>> >> remaining few sites there.
>> >>>>> >>> >> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/ and it's
>> >>>>> >>> >> also terribly out of date. I wondered which of
>> >>>>> >>> >> these options you'd prefer:
>> >>>>> >>> >>
>> >>>>> >>> >> 1. Close kopete.kde.org completely (user's can
>> >>>>> >>> >> still find information about it from the
>> >>>>> >>> >> userbase and www.kde.org application pages) 2.
>> >>>>> >>> >> Keep kopete.kde.org and redirect it to the
>> >>>>> >>> >> kopete userbase page or www.kde.org kopete
>> >>>>> >>> >> application page.
>> >>>>> >>> >> 3. Migrate kopete web content to git and update
>> >>>>> >>> >> it to reflect kopete current status etc.
>> >>>>> >>> >>
>> >>>>> >>> >> I can help with any of these but wanted to ask
>> >>>>> >>> >> which you prefer. I wont be updating the site
>> >>>>> >>> >> content itself in anyway, you can do that or
>> >>>>> >>> >> find someone else to do it, but I can do the
>> >>>>> >>> >> migration. Let me know what you think.
>> >>>>> >>> >>
>> >>>>> >>> >> BR,
>> >>>>> >>> >> Jeremy
>> >>>>> >>> >
>> >>>>> >>> > Hello,
>> >>>>> >>> >
>> >>>>> >>> > I have never touched kopete website because I did
>> >>>>> >>> > not know how and also I did not have time for it.
>> >>>>> >>> > Even I did not know what website is in svn...
>> >>>>> >>> >
>> >>>>> >>> > In last years I fixed lot of bugs in kopete and
>> >>>>> >>> > implemented some new options. You can see in
>> >>>>> >>> > kopete git that I regularly pushing changes. But
>> >>>>> >>> > I really do not have time for maintaining web
>> >>>>> >>> > site or something similar.
>> >>>>> >>> >
>> >>>>> >>> > So I think the best would be to keep
>> >>>>> >>> > kopete.kde.org DNS record and redirect webpage to
>> >>>>> >>> > userbase.
>> >>>>> >>> >
>> >>>>> >>> > I think there are 3 important things on
>> >>>>> >>> > kopete.kde.org webpage:
>> >>>>> >>> >
>> >>>>> >>> > 1) Pipes Plugin guide:
>> >>>>> >>> > https://kopete.kde.org/pipesimplementationguide/in
>> >>>>> >>> > dex.ht ml
>> >>>>> >>> >
>> >>>>> >>> > 2) Chat window style guide:
>> >>>>> >>> > https://kopete.kde.org/chatwindowstyleguide/index.
>> >>>>> >>> > html
>> >>>>> >>> >
>> >>>>> >>> > 3) Info about existence of KDE XMPP server:
>> >>>>> >>> > https://kdetalk.net/
>> >>>>> >>> >
>> >>>>> >>> > I do not know if these two guides are somewhere
>> >>>>> >>> > else so this could be backup (or link from
>> >>>>> >>> > userbase?).
>> >>>>> >>> >
>> >>>>> >>> > --
>> >>>>> >>> > Pali Rohár
>> >>>>> >>> > pali.rohar at gmail.com
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> --
>> >>>>> >> Pali Rohár
>> >>>>> >> pali.rohar at gmail.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Pali Rohár
>> >>>> pali.rohar at gmail.com
>> >>>>
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> Pali Rohár
> pali.rohar at gmail.com