Thank you page

[Jos Poortvliet]

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Jos Poortvliet
> <jospoortvliet at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Cornelius Schumacher
>> <schumacher at kde.org> wrote:
>>> On Monday 21 June 2010 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Cornelius Schumacher
>>>>
>>>> <schumacher at kde.org> wrote:
>>>> > We had a thank you page on www.kde.org, where we listed companies who
>>>> > helped KDE in one or the other way. Is this page completely gone now?
>>>> >
>>>> > It would be good to have a place, where we can list those companies and
>>>> > individuals who help us e.g. with hosting, by donating hardware, etc. To
>>>> > prevent that it gets completely outdated like the page we had, I would
>>>> > propose to only list support which is not older than a year. We can keep
>>>> > something like an archive page with support of previos years, though.
>>>> >
>>>> > What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Sounds good. But who will maintain it and how do we make sure we don't
>>>> miss anything? ;-)
>>>
>>> We should do some maintenance automatically like expiring old entries with
>>> some PHP magic. Other than that the web and promo teams and the board and
>>> other volunteers can jointly maintain it, I think.
>>>
>>> I don't think it will be a big problem if we miss something. People will
>>> complain, if they are not listed and think they should.
>>
>> Ok, sounds good. Should be really easy to update, however, preferably
>> without needing svn skills/access - so anyone in the (quickly moving
>> and changing) promo team can pick it up...
>
> In this case, it will need to be based in a database, or json file. In
> the case of a Database, it will need to be managed, and I don't think
> Sysadmin is too fond of www.kde.org using a database for security
> reasons. In the case of a JSON file, that would need to go in SVN
> still.

Hmmm.

> Getting the needed SVN access however can be done easily, by filing a
> Sysadmin bug report.

Sure, the barier isn't that high - but esp if you don't use a
commandline or work from windows (like me most of the time) it's
either hard or impossible. Most of the promo team don't have SVN and
if they did would have to learn how to use it. Frankly, etherpad can
be a barier to contribution already - so this would simply single out
most of the ppl who would help out.

So this would then have to be kept in sync by the usual suspects -
cornelius and you being two of them, Lydia third, maybe me (if/when I
get my svn to work again, I need it only so rarely I haven't put in
the time yet), etcetera. Not many. Not stuart, Justin, Carl - regular
and active contributors but I'd rather have them spend their time on
doing stuff instead of playing with svn.

Sorry to be so stubborn about this - but most ppl here in KDE vastly
underestimate the barrier that is SVN for contributors other than
developers. It took *me* _6 years_ (!) to get a svn account... I've
had contributions to articles being send to me in MS Word format
because google docs was too weird, you know...

Luckily it generally works - that's why I'm so happy with
community.kde.org, it's why I introduced google docs, it's why I love
etherpad... These things work for non-techies.

So I'm all for this list but try to automate it (connect to paypal
donations an supporting membership databases), make it darn easy so
promo can work on it, or be prepared to take on *another* task.

Love,
Jos

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> Ben
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