[Kexi] Kexi development

[Jaroslaw S]

2009/12/23 Anne Wilson <annew at kde.org>:
> On Wednesday 23 December 2009 12:40:45 you wrote:
>> 2009/12/23 Anne Wilson <annew at kde.org>:
>> >> Good Idea.
>> >> Even while Bob has no access to Kexi 2.x yet, a good start is to
>> >> carefully migrate 1.x documentation to the userbase wiki for
>> >> incremental updates. There are obviously parts of the workflow that so
>> >> not change (if we don't count screenshots).
>> >
>> > I would suggest that we handle this in a way similar to the Plasma pages
>> > - we build the pages under the revision number, then the main page is
>> > redirected to the current revision while an infobox tells people where to
>> > find older versions.  The structure is partially set up, in response to a
>> > recent request to move file-format support information - see
>> > http://userbase.kde.org/Kexi/1.6/Text for an example.
>> >
>> > So we would start with creating the page Kexi/2.2/Kexi and then any
>> > subpages needed would be Kexi/2.2/PageName.  Does that sound OK?  The
>> > existing documentation can be put under the 1.6 section - I'll help with
>> > that if you wish.
>>
>> That's ok, but I would prefer Kexi/Handbook/ path. No need to put
>> versions into the place (changes too quickly).
>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>
> That's fine as well.
>
>> By the way, I offered my help to the kde-www team regardingthe
>> breadcrumb links on the userbase/techbase.
>> It's a small taks but I still didnt get the access. Is there anything
>> that stops us from having the sites navigation improved?
>>
>> (I am asking because people add a lot of navigation links by hand (!),
>> and also the language template is not the best way of handling things
>> - one could use e.g. mediawiki namespaces, otherwise searching is a
>> nightmare)
>>
> Nothing happened for a long time as no-one capable of doing the necessary on
> the server had the time.  Then recently I teamed up with the forum guys, and
> neverendingo has now got full rights over userbase.  We're doing a lot of work
> to improve matters, but it will take a few more weeks before things show up.
> Part of the problem is that our wikis are running an old version of mediawiki
> - and this will have to be changed first.

This is always the case - mediawiki just moves quickly forward :)
>
> Breadcrumb navigation in mediawiki must be harder than you'd think.  There are
> several extensions to allow it, but none of them give breadcrumbs structured
> like the ones in dolphin.  That suggests to me that there is a problem.

I have implemented my own and can be inserted into the template. (see kexi.pl )

> However, there exists an extension that gives breadcrumbe using categories as
> the intermediate crumb.  That looks more promising, but is not yet tested on
> our sandbox wiki.

Hmm, categories are nonlinear so it looks more like  a tag soup, isn't it?

> This is one of the things that we hope to realise in the
> next few weeks.  We have lots of plans that will improve matters :-), one of
> which is to get a better search engine in.
>
> I haven't forgotten your offer, but if a tool already exists there's no point
> in wasting your time.  OTOH, once we have the updated wiki running, if the
> extensions tested don't meet our needs, at least you will have someone
> available to talk to wrt trying out your method.  Having the sandbox is a
> great help.

Alternatively, if I could get you copy of mediawiki files and
directories with the template, I could try to run it locally and make
a patch that the admin can apply.

-- 
regards / pozdrawiam, Jaroslaw Staniek
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