[Kde-women] survey nut :)

[Girard Henri]

Hi :)
I didn't mind answering the survey : I did it.. and at the end had no button to send it ?
Who did make such a useless survey ?
I fear those people aren't competent !
and i don't like my email to be full of rubbish !
cheers
Henri
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne-Marie Mahfouf" <annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr>
To: <eva.brucherseifer at basyskom.de>; <kde-women at kde.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Kde-women] KDE Desktop Usability Survey



> On March 29, 2005 04:16 pm, Eva Brucherseifer wrote:
> > Dear Annma,
> >
> > can you please inform me, why you think so?
> > As far as I know, the kde-women list is mainly crowded by users of the KDE
> > desktop. Thus the subscribers are the perfect target for a usability test
> > as the HASE group perfoms.
> > Usability is an essential topic for KDE and a fundamental part of usability
> > engineering is the performance of (costly) usability surveys with real
> > users. It gives important input to the give tips based on _real_ data. Of
> > course they also want the input of women too, don't you think so?
> > I am very glad that the KDE project finally manages to attract also
> > contributors from the usability world.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > eva
> 
> This group has spammed all the KDE mailing lists so first this is an 
> aggressive tactic. That means I got at least 10 same mails from them.
> Secondly, this survey is not about usability at all. It says it is but in 
> reality it is not. The questions are badly formulated, the same survey is 
> done for GNOME and Windows and the results are not guaranteed  to reach us 
> (no timeframe is defined, I asked the HASE people). This will not bring any 
> useful hint at all nor is it conducted scientifically with a representative 
> panel of KDE users. 
> I would not call those questions a 'survey' myself.
> 
> If a real survey is to be done by serious people, of course I would invite the 
> most users to take it. This is not the case, please have a deeper look at 
> it . Last time we had a survey proposal on this list, we found out that the 
> results would not be free. I have no time to browse the archives but youcan 
> have a look. What I would like is to free this list from that kind of mail.
> 
> Usability is very good but usability is NOT done with that kind of surveys. 
> Usability is done first through the KDE Usability mailing list and website 
> and also with OpenUsability.org which has a very good team.
> Usability should try to define a HIG for KDE.
> I am the first one very interested in usability and indeed I asked for 
> usability reports for KHangMan (I can say that a usability expert wrote one 
> of the best usability reports in KDE, see
> http://edu.kde.org/khangman/usability.php)
> and KLettres and I improved many aspects of my software after these reports. 
> We are working for usability guidelines for KDE-Edu, mainly with 
> OpenUsability.org.
> 
> Maybe this is why I am shocked to see this 'survey' in all mailing lists and 
> even on the Dot, as if it is something important. It minimizes the real work 
> of people doing real usability improvements. It mislead users who think they 
> participate to making KDE better. So from my point of view, it's damaging.
> 
> Free software projects such as KDE are now the target of all sort of studies, 
> that's fine but that's not PART of KDE. Those 2 people (acronyms as HASE are 
> catchy but well, this is a 2 people team), while belonging to a US 
> university, are maybe not usability experts at all. We don't know their area 
> of expertise nor their previous work. From what I see, they sent a misleading 
> mail with misleading information (they imply they will help KDE, they don't 
> mention the surveys for GNOME and Windows, those surveys are not visible 
> through their website if you don't know the links). The same person can 
> indeed take the survey twice or more from the same machine. All that does not 
> strike me as very professional and I would not acknowledge any fact obtained 
> through such a process. Maybe a script could fill and send several forms.
> 
> Maybe some people from this list if they have 15 minutes to loose could take 
> this survey and share their impressions.
> 
> My impressions are negative and I react because I care about usability. Real 
> usability.
> 
> Anne-Marie
> 
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