KDE Windows Updater Client

[Ralf Habacker]

Bernhard schrieb:
>
> that sounds like a really good idea. Today I've tried the 0.8.3 
> installer and it worked out really well (althought it has forgotten to 
> add the strigi dependency).
>
to which package ?
>
> Atm the update function is a bit rusty implemented in the interface 
> but ok.. that's easy to change.
>
Any proposals and patches very welcome What kind of interface you have 
in mind ?
>
> I wonder if there's any chance that I could upload the code somewhere 
> because I fear that I won't have much time to work on it. Further more 
> I don't think I've got the skill for doing this alone. (I've just 
> started with QT and KDE programming).
>
No problem, the installer isn't a one man show, there are several people 
working on it
>
> So everybody who wants can work on it.
>
Is the last zip file you send to this list the recent version ? Then I 
would add it to the sources.
>
> Also I don't know yet how the release team is going to manage the 
> release for windows.  Will there be such updates like you get in 
> openSUSE? (e.g. kdebase-3.96-10.1 --> kdebase-3.96-10.2) or isn't 
> there enough server capacity to do this? If that isn't the case I have 
> real doubts for the importance of an update feature because if you can 
> just upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1 it will broken to a big percentage 
> because much has changed.
>
Christian has released 3.94-1 and then 3.95-1, I guess the next version 
will be 3.96-1 - what are your plans for furture releases Christian ?

It may required to release patches based on a released version.

> As I've stated in the first email I don't know these things yet and I 
> would appreciate if someone could tell me
>
I haven't seen anyone else entering this discussion, so we have to think 
about the best solution based on the required use cases :-)
>
> (if it's already decided)
>
we are in the pre decision state and I need some time to design this 
area together with the releasers.

Ralf


> 2007/11/20, Ralf Habacker <ralf.habacker at freenet.de 
> <mailto:ralf.habacker at freenet.de>>:
>
>     Bernhard schrieb:
>     > so.. I've just checked out the svn directory of the
>     kde-windows-installer.
>     > If I'm not completely mistaken I can use  the whole stuff from
>     the shared
>     > folder in  the updater.
>     >
>     yes, but if you like to create a full updater you need more files at
>     least the settings class to get current mirror/proxy and other
>     settings
>     > I've seen there are also plans to implement an update feature in
>     the
>     > kde-windows-installer. Is there something going on atm?
>     >
>     Yes it was in the pipeline already for some time and is mostly
>     implemented in the installer. See the last release.
>     > Would it be better if I could somehow try to hack the update
>     function into
>     > the kde-windows installer or would you like it more to have two
>     seperate
>     > programs?
>     >
>     What do you think about to split the task: the installer handles all
>     update related stuff and a little tray icon program which is
>     loaded up
>     on login and checks in regulary intervals for updates (the way how to
>     detect has to be designed, the related code should be in the shared
>     folder - any suggestions) and if updates are available
>     it runs the installer with a specific command line to perform the
>     required steps.
>
>     Ralf
>
>     > 2007/11/13, Bernhard <mustermaxi at gmail.com
>     <mailto:mustermaxi at gmail.com>>:
>     >
>     >> thx for the feedback!
>     >>
>     >> To be honest I've hoped that someone could make a nice
>     suggestion because
>     >> I don't know how the KDE team will manage the whole packaging.
>     (compiled
>     >> packages, just source, executables) Afaik you won't release a
>     KDE Windowsversion with KDE
>     >> 4.0. Is this still true?
>     >>
>     >> The whole project has basically begun because I think it would
>     be a nice
>     >> addition for users who are currently using a program, are
>     encountering a
>     >> bug, file a bug report, and if you've got luck with the next
>     update (you get
>     >> from this little prog) you get the fixed version automatically.
>     (don't know
>     >> if you should just update for example from 4.0.0 to 4.0.1 or if
>     you should
>     >> use snapshots of svn.)
>     >> I'm open for every suggestion regarding both technical and user
>     views.
>     >>
>     >> If there's no other way round I thought about just downloading
>     the new zip
>     >> archives and replace the files of your current install.
>     >>
>     >> Sadly I haven't had any time yet to look into the code of the
>     KDE-Windowsinstaller and how it works. Does it compile something?
>     Or does it just copy
>     >> the files from the archive into your install directory?
>     >>
>     >> Also I don't know yet how to implement the dependency handling
>     and if this
>     >> is something my program should concern about (imo the
>     dependencies should
>     >> have already been checked by kde-windows-installer).
>     >>
>     >> I hope you've got some suggestions and feedback for me.
>     >>
>     >> Bernhard
>     >>
>     >> 2007/11/13, Ralf Habacker < ralf.habacker at freenet.de
>     <mailto:ralf.habacker at freenet.de>>:
>     >>
>     >>> Bernhard schrieb:
>     >>>
>     >>>> I've attached a new version of the "mockup". It should just show
>     >>>>
>     >>> what's in
>     >>>
>     >>>> my mind .. atm.
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>> This looks good. What are your plans about the package format
>     used for
>     >>> updates ? Currently there are only full packages available
>     >>> http://download.cegit.de/kde-windows/
>     >>>
>     >>> BTW: You may take a look on the recent kde on windows
>     installer located
>     >>> on http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/kdewin-installer/.
>     May be some
>     >>> stuff can be merged.
>     >>>
>     >>> regards
>     >>> Ralf
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>     >
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