useless discussion on MinGW/MSVC & releasing apps

Ralf Habacker ralf.habacker at freenet.de
Sat Dec 22 19:48:58 CET 2007


Ralf Habacker schrieb:
> Christian Ehrlicher schrieb:
>   
>> Saro Engels schrieb:
>>   
>>     
>>> Andreas Pakulat schrieb:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> On 21.12.07 11:34:13, Christian Ehrlicher wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> I wonder why we need such a dicussion every now and then. Imho we
>>>>> decided to support both compilers - so no discussion here any more.
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> Agreed.
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> The only thing you could discuss is wheter we should (officially)
>>>>> support gcc4.2.1 and msvc2008. As gcc4.2.1 is only a technology preview
>>>>> I personally would not even consider them using it in anything other
>>>>> than a test environment...
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> Well, for now thats probably Ok, but I hope we can switch to gcc4.2 or
>>>> even 4.3 for the first release already.
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> I also don't understand why someone thinks about releasing any kde4 app
>>>>> before 4.1. There're so much open issues in kdelibs and I did not see a
>>>>> *single* checkin to fix them! Looks like you only want to get some
>>>>> public attention without thinking about what you want to release.
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> Do we have a list of all these issues? I suspect I can find out some
>>>> things by simply building and trying a kde app, but having them written
>>>> down might be a good thing.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we should ask for a bugzilla component for kde-win specific issues
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> There is 
>>> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDE_on_Windows/Missing/features/functions/kdelibs
>>> already which is not to much yet. If you find something, please add it 
>>> below.
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>> Plz add the showstopper 'kfilewidget'. You can't change the current
>> drive and I'm curently unable to solve this problem. I already tried it
>> without sucess. It should show the same directory tree like the native
>> file open dialog. Desktop -> Arbeitsplatz -> C:, D:, ... but the current
>> url-based implementation does not allow this.
>>
>> We should also disable the dbus-commandline window. Ralf?
>>   
>>     
> Thats somehow curios, if you run kdeinit4 first, it runs dbus-daemon in 
> the background and there is no console window.
> in kdelibs there is code to start kdeinit4 if no dbus-daemon is running, 
> but it looks the the autostart feature in libdbus overrides this, which 
> means it  looks to  be called first .
> As far as i can see does the CreateProcess in the libdbus autostart code 
> opens this window and I have no idea how to disable it.
>   
I should add some notes for clarification: CreateProcess has a process 
creation flag to disable the console windows but this disables also 
debug message printing, which is not really what we want.

The conclusion is that dbus-daemon should be started by kdeinit4 and no 
by dbus autostart option.

Ralf

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