Summary of NWI -- the page

Maciej Pilichowski bluedzins at wp.pl
Sat May 16 12:17:10 CEST 2009


On Saturday 16 May 2009 04:04:11 Matthew Woehlke wrote:

> Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> > Maciej Pilichowski wrote:
> >> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/NWI
> >> Default options for non-FAI containers:
> >
> > I have some comments here, need to re-check the thread. More
> > later. (Hopefully not too /much/ later ;-).)
>
> Oy. On re-reading the thread, I think the problem here is just that
> "app" is really confusing (unfortunately) in this context :-(.
>
> I rewrote this in a way that I can understand it; I don't think I
> changed any of your intent (with one exception), but...
>
> The one change I did make is to remove the "not-FAI" part. Any
> reason FAI should behave differently? (Do we need this configurable
> per-container? I think my preference is to not do that.)

I cannot tell because I didn't find any reference to "default options 
for non-FAI containers" phrase or any similar. The only similar 
section is about SAI not FAI, and it is justified because SAI is not 
container per se, and those options does not make any sense for SAI.

> Okay... from a technical standpoint the WM and app have to
> cooperate for 'close document' (it may be possible for the WM to
> accept the key combo and decide if it should send the app a close
> document or close window signal, which would be ideal; better
> integration with non-KDE apps, less app code needs to change), but
> then ctrl-w can't be used :-(.

Why?

> What about quit app? I rewrote it as almost 'killall <app name>'.

Ok.

> Currently it's up to the app to implement this, but come to think
> of it, it may be possible for the WM to do it, which might make it
> more consistent (but I think wouldn't actually quit apps that don't
> go away when all their windows are closed, e.g. systray apps). 

But you can close such app (and then it stays), quit means quit (like 
today).

> >> [ ] closing document closes "its" application if there are
> >> sibling instances of that application within the container<br>
>
> Okay... this makes no sense. Why would I want the application to
> quit because I have more than one window open? 

:-DDDDDDDDDDDDD It is your idea, so I assumed you have a reason for 
such behaviour :-))))))))) I only understood it as a gesture for Mac 
users.

About month ago you wrote:
"What about a policy that close doc will close the application also if 
there are sibling instances of that app? I think I would be okay 
implementing it that way."

Since you confirmed it should be an option I added it as an 
option :-)) So... should I remove it?

> >> * close topmost container (not counting desktop)
>
> Isn't that "log off"? ;-)
> (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

:-)))) Yes it is, that's why it is not counting desktop :-)))

Cheers,


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