NWI - FAI for non-root containers

[Matthew Woehlke]

Maciej Pilichowski wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 18:37:17 Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> 
>>> a) show scrollbars for container
>>> b) resize the embedded app
>>> c) "push" the app so it will fit into new size
>>>
>>> I opt for (c), it would be very similar to res.change in desktop.
>> TBH my initial reaction is "a" (how 'Doze does it, anyway) though
>> that is actually somewhat annoying. I think "c" (and "b" if needed)
>> would also be okay,
> 
> a vs. b+c are rather contrary :-)
> 
>> but what about moving apps outside the 
>> container; is that simply not allowed?
> 
> Outside in such way that it is still parent (container) and the 
> application is no longer visible. I'll say it should be forbidden:

Yes, but...

> a) because it is forbidden for desktop, no strong argument, but...

...this isn't entirely true (although I didn't find a way to break it 
with keyboard and mouse, I think a window can ask to be placed 
off-screen. Whether this should be allowed or not might be a separate 
debate :-) ). But for discussion, let's assume it is true.

Anyway I'm not strongly opinionated on the matter. (Though... scroll 
bars in root... hmm, the much-wanted "virtual desktop"? :-) )

> b) if we agree on some kind of tearing off applications it will be a 
> bit odd (I think?) to make the difference between tearing off (app 
> visually and technically outside, parent changed) and moving out (app 
> outside only technically, visually hidden, parent not changed).

Yes, I see where you're coming from. TBH my biggest argument for scroll 
bars is simply "that's how it works now", not so much that I necessarily 
feel it is better. In fact scroll bars in MDI can be darned annoying.

Like I said, my "initial reaction" is scroll bars. That's not saying I 
think it's /best/ :-).

For writing summaries, I'd say write as the recommendation what you 
think is best, and mention the alternative in case others want to 
discuss further.

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