When do I disconnect? Or, research on the "disconnect on close" issue

[David Edmundson]

2011/6/17 Rohan Garg <rohan16garg at gmail.com>:
> I would *really* appreciate it if there was no dialog when quitting the
> contact list because when i close a app, i just want to quit it and not be
> annoyed by silly dialog's asking me if i really want to quit or go offline,
> on the other hand i quite like the idea of having a option in the presence
> plasmoid which lets you set what you want to do with the contact list.
> Another option would be differentiate "Close" vs "Quit" :
> Close : Just close the contact list, don't disconnect ( Keycombo : Alt + F4
> )
> Quit :  Quit the contact list whilst disconnecting any connected accounts (
> Keycombo : Ctrl + Q )
> Just my 2 cents ;)
> Regards
> Rohan Garg

The issue is explaining this to the user. I think the vast majority of
our users will think:
1) the contact list will dock
2) when they inevitably can't see anything, it means they're disconnected

Anyone installing our first release will have to set up the presence
plasmoid by hand, as it can't add itself to the panels/desktop.

A user not knowing if they're visible to their friends or not isn't a
state we want.

As soon as the user understands telepathy I don't think it becomes an
issue, but it's different to Kopete, Pidgin or even how Empathy
behaves.

Dave

>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 2:58 AM, David Edmundson
> <david at davidedmundson.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Francesco Nwokeka
>> <francesco.nwokeka at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 27 April 2011 17:33:27 Dario Freddi wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday 27 April 2011 16:24:46 George Goldberg wrote:
>> >> > That bug report has a description of what is needed to solve this
>> >> > problem properly. It also says Dario volunteered to implement it, so
>> >> > I'll leave it to him to comment on how far he's got with that.
>> >> > Upstream aren't going to implement it - it's down to us to make it
>> >> > happen (including any changes to upstream projects (mission-control
>> >> > etc)).
>> >>
>> >> Erm, wait - I did not actually volunteer to implement it, but I was
>> >> waiting
>> >> for news like David was to be honest, there was probably a
>> >> misunderstanding. That said, I can look into the issue indeed.
>> >
>> > Hi guys. I have a solution that may be quite simple and would release us
>> > from the pain of having to
>> > do who knows what kind of c++/dbus kde ass kicking mc guyver magic.
>> >
>> > Why don't we simply show a dialog box on the contactlist exit that asks
>> > the user : "You are about to
>> > close the contact list. Do you want to disconnect too?" with a checkbox
>> > for keeping that setting
>> > effective all times.
>> >
>> > What do you say?
>>
>> We have a good plan for KDE Tp 0.2, especially as Dario has found out
>> how to do ref counting in plasma, however realistically it's not there
>> yet. I think we need a short-term solution such as this.
>>
>> I think your proposal makes a lot of sense, though maybe we need a bit
>> of tweaking on the message.
>>
>> My suggestion:
>>
>> When you close the contact list, you will still remain online
>> available to all your contacts. If you also use the telepathy presence
>> applet you can control your presence here.
>>
>>          [Stay Online] [Disconnect my accounts]
>>
>> (I'm not sure if we can do buttons with the dialog that has the "do
>> not show again" button", but we can deal with that later.)
>>
>>
>>
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