When do I disconnect? Or, research on the "disconnect on close" issue

[Francesco Nwokeka]

On Friday 17 June 2011 23:57:06 Rohan Garg wrote:
> I would *really* appreciate it if there was no dialog when quitting the
> contact list because when i close a app, i just want to quit it and not be
> annoyed by silly dialog's asking me if i really want to quit or go offline,
this would be shown just once, the first time you close the dialog (or choose not to see it again)

> on the other hand i quite like the idea of having a option in the presence
> plasmoid which lets you set what you want to do with the contact list.
What if i use fluxbox and don't have the presence plasmoid? Or simply don't have or want the presence 
plasmoid?

> Another option would be differentiate "Close" vs "Quit" :
> Close : Just close the contact list, don't disconnect ( Keycombo : Alt + F4
> )
> Quit :  Quit the contact list whilst disconnecting any connected accounts (
> Keycombo : Ctrl + Q )
Yes, this indeed but we need to tell users what happens. 
On close show a message stating "You are simply closing the application. Your accounts will remain 
ONLINE".
On quit show : "Quitting the application will disconnect any connected accounts you have. Are you 
sure?"

Naturally all this once (the user will have a "don't show this again" option)

> Just my 2 cents ;)
> 
> Regards
> Rohan Garg
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 2:58 AM, David Edmundson
> <david at davidedmundson.co.uk
> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Francesco Nwokeka
> > 
> > <francesco.nwokeka at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 27 April 2011 17:33:27 Dario Freddi wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday 27 April 2011 16:24:46 George Goldberg wrote:
> > >> > That bug report has a description of what is needed to solve this
> > >> > problem properly. It also says Dario volunteered to implement it, so
> > >> > I'll leave it to him to comment on how far he's got with that.
> > >> > Upstream aren't going to implement it - it's down to us to make it
> > >> > happen (including any changes to upstream projects (mission-control
> > >> > etc)).
> > >> 
> > >> Erm, wait - I did not actually volunteer to implement it, but I was
> > 
> > waiting
> > 
> > >> for news like David was to be honest, there was probably a
> > >> misunderstanding. That said, I can look into the issue indeed.
> > > 
> > > Hi guys. I have a solution that may be quite simple and would release
> > > us
> > 
> > from the pain of having to
> > 
> > > do who knows what kind of c++/dbus kde ass kicking mc guyver magic.
> > > 
> > > Why don't we simply show a dialog box on the contactlist exit that asks
> > 
> > the user : "You are about to
> > 
> > > close the contact list. Do you want to disconnect too?" with a checkbox
> > 
> > for keeping that setting
> > 
> > > effective all times.
> > > 
> > > What do you say?
> > 
> > We have a good plan for KDE Tp 0.2, especially as Dario has found out
> > how to do ref counting in plasma, however realistically it's not there
> > yet. I think we need a short-term solution such as this.
> > 
> > I think your proposal makes a lot of sense, though maybe we need a bit
> > of tweaking on the message.
> > 
> > My suggestion:
> > 
> > When you close the contact list, you will still remain online
> > available to all your contacts. If you also use the telepathy presence
> > applet you can control your presence here.
> > 
> >          [Stay Online] [Disconnect my accounts]
> > 
> > (I'm not sure if we can do buttons with the dialog that has the "do
> > not show again" button", but we can deal with that later.)