[kde-solaris] KDE 3.1.4 status update

Stefan Teleman steleman at nyc.rr.com
Mon Sep 22 23:34:50 CEST 2003


Don't get too excited, it's not ready yet. :-)

Just a little status update: i started building 3.1.4 yesterday.

Given the unpleasant amount of problems some of you seem to have had 
with the kderequired jumbo pkg and pkg relocation, i will build 3.1.4 
with RPATH disabled. This way, there will no hardcoded library paths 
into shared libraries or executables. On the flip side, this creates 
another little problem: LD_LIBARY_PATH has to be set, and it may end 
up being very long. 

I will also try my very best to re-package kderequired into its 
separate components. That means there will be a _lot_ of individual 
packages to be installed, one by one. I guess i would call it a 
tradeoff in pain. :-) I don't know if this really is a better 
approach, i am only trying to make things easier. If you think it's a 
loser, please let me know. :-) It also means one extra week of delay 
in releasing, because i have to build these packages separately, one 
by one, and there's quite a few of them. :-(

On the issue of why is kderequired really required: the truth is, 
mixing very aggressively optimized Forte generated code with gcc 
generated code (of which most of the time i cannot even determine how 
it was built) does not always work. gcc C++ and Forte C++ are not 
fully binary compatible with each other, especially at such high 
levels of specific UltraSPARC optimization. When i was working on my 
first try at KDE (early this year), i tried to use some gcc built 
libraries off the 'Net, and i gave up very soon, because of 
unpredictable behavior, which disappeared once i built everything 
with Forte.

Plese let me know what you think.

I am very curious to see if the ksmserver / session shutdown problem 
happens on Forte as well. I will keep everyone posted. I am also 
curious if Noatun's decision to not work with gcc translates into it 
working with Forte (something which up until now it has obstinately 
refused to do), I did not yet find the time to do a -g build of 
kdemultimedia. I promise i will do a debug build after 3.1.4 and try 
my very best to get it fixed for 3.2, if it still does not work.

On a side note (not necessarily related to KDE): i have built/ported 
xmms and gimp with/to Forte, and been testing them for about a week 
now, and they are smokin' fast and very stable. If anyone is 
interested, please let me know, and i will find a way of getting them 
to you, without abusing KDE's generosity in terms of disk space. The 
drawback: you have to install kderequired. :-)

Thank you so much to everyone for their kind support and feedback.


Stefan Teleman          'Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition'
steleman at nyc.rr.com                          -Monty Python

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