A look at GNOME 2.14, comparison to KDE

[Nathan Eckenrode]

I have been watching this thread with great interest. I have been using linux 
for about six months now. I switched from OS X to Ubuntu, to shorten my story 
somewhat, I tried the default GNOME, maybe it's just so brown and plain, I 
didn't like it. There were lots of tutorials on teh forums about customizing 
the configuration-  the ones I paid teh most attention to had to deal with 
the appearance and feel of the desktop. I tried Enlightenment both DR16 & 
DR17. I liked the appearance but the applications just were not strong enough 
for me. Then I came around and tried KDE. 

I updated to 3.5.1 almost right away. I really have enjoyed the multifunctions 
of Konqui- I use it to web browser, file manage ( I love that I can look in 
my images directory and see the previews) and with the ftp capabilities can 
file manage my server as if it was just an external hard drive! 

There is so much more that I can do with Konqueror that I am learning. By 
reading this thread I learned about using F9 to open the sidebar and bang, I 
have a new function that improves my experience. Between Kontact, Konqueror 
and Koffice there is very little that I need to open otherwise - ok I have 
some issues with my school's newsgroups that requires Thunderbird but that's 
a different thread, and my bank doesn't let me use Konqui so I leave Firefox 
onboard, and if Kwrite had a .doc filter there could be no other cause for me 
to use anything outside of the Ksuite. 

If there was a line across the top of the sidebar that delineated that from 
the toolbar above it,, much the way the sidebar is handled in Kontact - I 
believe that this would produce a more unified feel to this application - or 
series of applications.  I'd love to be able to put this in myself - someone 
please tell me where or how. If it is part of the themes or if it is part of 
the code, where this solution would be located. Otherwise, I will continue to 
use these programs and look forward to learning more about how they work.

Thanks, 

N8

On Tuesday 21 February 2006 02:10, Tompos Ákos wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To be honest: I don't use konqueror.
> Here is why:
> I'm an ortodox two panel filemanager user. So filemanagement is out.
> Yes, I've tried to set it up once as a two panel file manager, I've even
> changed most of the  keybindings to be the same as to good old Volkov
> Commander from DOS times. It had the same look, but the feel was nowhere
> near. I'm still using MC in a konsole.
>
> Web browsing. I've used konqeror as a web browser for long. Altough I
> had a mozilla installed for pages that didn't display well. But than
> Firefox came with tons of plugins, and I switched. With the plugins it
> has a better feel.
>
> >   man:/cupsaddsmb
> >   info:/ls
>
> Hey I didn't know that. :)
>
> >   fish://kpfeifle@linuxprinting.org
>
> I've already filed a bug report about this. It's still open. Fish
> transfer is slow gives only 10% of the speed compared to duing sftp from
> konsole. This is file managment.
>
> >   smb://workgroup/windows_xp_box/my_share
>
> This was broken for so long, I've given up hope. I think it's working
> now, but I got used to smb4k. Anyway this is file management.
>
> > In reality Konqueror is not bloated at all. Konqueror is very thin, and
> > very lean. Konqueror is "only" an empty shell. An empty shell which is
> > able to load other programs ("kparts") into itself and into its tabs so
> > that the user can access them from one place.
>
> I think the main problem is not the bloat. Lot of people use emacs. :-)
> The main problem is the feel part of the interface.
> Why use kwrite when you have kate?
> The idea of the generic interface is good, but there are a couple of
> auxilary commands/functions that are necessary in a program which fall
> outside of the scope of the given kpart. Like tab order in a two panel
> file manger. You would have to heck konqueror to have the same tab order
> as Total Commander as doesn't have a real tab order. Or have you ever
> tried to handle konquerors two panel file manager from the keyboard
> only? It's awkward.
>
> I think that's the main reason behind the "bloated program" argument.
> People want more specialized interfaces. They don't really care if it's
> the same program or not.
>
> Brain
>
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