[Kde-pim] Re: KMail - do distribution lists work ??

[Peter]

On Wednesday 09 March 2011 22:31:57 you wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 March 2011 11:18:28 Peter wrote:
> > On Wednesday 09 March 2011 05:54:41 you wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 08, 2011 01:31:11 AM Peter wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 08 March 2011 18:44:48 you wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 08 March 2011 05:12:24 Peter wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Having problems with distribution lists in Kmail, and saw this
> > > 
> > > thread:
> > > > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1637111
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is this problem/bug fixed yet ?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ubuntu 64 bit 10.04
> > > > > > KMail 1.13.5
> > > > > > KDE 4.4.5
> > > > > 
> > > > > I use Fedora, 32-bit, so there are differences.  However, I saw
> > > 
> > > that
> > > 
> > > > > behaviour a long time ago - maybe a year ago?  Certainly Groups
> > > 
> > > email does
> > > 
> > > > > work now - I used it last week.  The UI is less than assuring, as
> > > 
> > > it
> > > 
> > > > > doesn't expand the group on your composer window, but a test email
> > > 
> > > to a
> > > 
> > > > > group that contains all my email addresses proves that the
> > > 
> > > messages were
> > > 
> > > > > delivered as expected.
> > > > 
> > > > More testing, and when I add a new group using Kontact, I can see
> > > 
> > > all the
> > > 
> > > > newly added contacts with email addresses for 5 seconds, then they
> > > 
> > > disappear.
> > > 
> > > > Any debug logs or similar I can look at ?
> > > > 
> > > > See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/580242
> > > > 
> > > > They say it is a KDE bug, not Ubunbtu.
> > > > 
> > > > Peter
> > > > 
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> > > 
> > > I have a simular problem on openSUSE 11.3 and 11.4. I can create the
> > > group in Contacts, and Kmail 1.13.6 displays the group, and sets it in
> > > the TO: field. But it adds my local system domain name and when I send
> > > it it bounces. It apparently does not expand all the other address and
> > > it should not ad the domain name
> > 
> > That is EXACTLY what happens for me.
> > 
> > > This was a bug in an earlier version
> > > and was fixed, broke again with 4.6. There is a bug on KDE but I
> > > cannot find it with search.
> > 
> > I see the problem back as far as 2008, maybe even earlier. It appears to
> > rear its head all the time, and become broken in new releases. Is this
> > the bug ?
> > 
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265867
> 
> I don't know - but reading that bug report made me think of another line of
> investigation.  KMail still allows you to create a distribution list from
> addresses in a message.

I tried the 'add to address book' option when viewing a message, it asked 
which address book, but they were not saved.   :(

> OTOH, KAddressBook allows you to create a group,
> then select existing addresses to add to the group.  Which method do you
> use?

I have tried to create a group via Kontact and KAddressbook. It seems Kontact 
actually did save them, if I used the 'personal contacts' type storage. That 
said, I couldn't see them in KMail.
 
> My group (which works) was created in KAddressBook.  It's possible that the
> old-style distribution list creation is the problem.

The only groups that will show in KMail, under KAddressbook are the ones of 
the 'vcard' type, stored at !/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf

> I will warn you, though, that from time to time my KAddressBook loses one
> or more addresses from a group.  I always check to see that all are on the
> list (in Contacts) before using the Group as an address.  I assume that
> this is a bug, but since I use a stable version, not 4.6 Kontact (which is
> not released by KDE as stable) it's not relevant to report the bug - it
> could well be fixed by now.

Okay, seems these bugs have been around a long time.  Can I run KMail in debug 
mode, or is there a log file somewhere to check ?

Peter

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