[Kde-pim] Kde-pim identities

[Gaffer.]

Hello Pier-Olivier,

On Sunday 27 July 2008 21:15, Pier-Olivier Thibault wrote:
> On Sunday 27 July 2008 14:16:47 Gaffer. wrote:
> > Hi ingo,
> >
> > On Sunday 27 July 2008 18:52, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > > On Sunday 27 July 2008, Gaffer. wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 27 July 2008 15:39, Pier-Olivier Thibault wrote:
> > > > > Identities could be integrated to users more tightly to
> > > > > provide more featues for the user. I know that right now
> > > > > the identities are only e-mail's related but I think
> > > > > creating a resource to akonadi with identities. This way,
> > > > > we could gather more information about the user.
> > > >
> > > > I, and I think many users would be entirely against the
> > > > collection of information about users for what ever reason !
> > >
> > > I think you are misunderstanding. The information gathered by
> > > KDE would only be available to the user the information belongs
> > > to and it would only be used to give you a better user
> > > experience.
> >
> > I'm fine with that !  I would strongly object to making it
> > publicly accessible !
>
> I never mentionned the resource being publicly available. And the
> reason why I didn't mention anything about being private/public is
> that Akonadi is a personal data Protocol and storage. The Akonadi's
> infrastructure is already private... The Identity resource I wanted
> to work on was intended to give more transparency between
> application that a user chooses to use.

Your wording in the original post was open to very broad 
interpretation ! 

Then when you start saying

"we could have the same function as WinXP that shows how many e-mails 
have not been read before the user log on, How many contacts are 
online on his IM protocol he is using, etc. "

The implication is that you want to copy M$ behaviour...    Are you 
surprised that this gets jumped on !

> I don't know what made everyone suspicious about personal info. All
> the data I'm interested in are not sensible data. A strict API only
> returning unread mail is not what I call sensible data.

For my part I should have realised that English is not your native 
language, for that I apologise.


> > > > > The people to which this identity sends the most email to.
> > >
> > > This is clearly a task for Nepomuk.
> > >
> > > > > Integrating it as a resource could give other possibility
> > > > > too. When you're in KDM switch for user we could have the
> > > > > same function as WinXP that shows how many e-mails have not
> > > > > been read before the user log on, How many contacts are
> > > > > online on his IM protocol he is using, etc.
> > >
> > > I agree with Derrick, that this would be a breach of privacy.
> > > This information is of no concern for anybody but me and
> > > therefore it must only be shown to me. FWIW, I hate this WinXP
> > > feature.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ingo
>
> Anyhow, I think the overall reaction to this idea is that it is
> something that could be useful as a part of Akonadi resource. But
> in order to be useful, it has to be secure and does not hands over
> sensible data so a "security layer" could be worked out to make
> sure nothing bad can happen.

More clarity in your original post would have been preferred !

-- 
Best Regards:
             Derrick.
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